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[jellywrestler]

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Rugby, Teaches you to put the needs of the team before your own,
then maybe we shouldn't write off what we can learn from other sports...

also teaches you that it's ok to throw punches and eye gouges and other shit....

[sharp2183]

also teaches you that it's ok to throw punches and eye gouges and other shit....

Last I heard that wasn't ok dude... In our teams players were benched or dropped for that behaviour.

In fact that's definitely not ok and if that's what you think team sport teaches you then it's probably best you don't become a coach or let your kids play.

Sport is changing and so it should. It wasn't so long ago that Rossi and Biaggi were getting physical post races. Not a great example either.

[sharp2183]

Anyway let's not get into that. AMCC have ways they can improve so let's hope this season sees some of that.

[Drew]

Last I heard that wasn't ok dude... In our teams players were benched or dropped for that behaviour.

In fact that's definitely not ok and if that's what you think team sport teaches you then it's probably best you don't become a coach or let your kids play.

Sport is changing and so it should. It wasn't so long ago that Rossi and Biaggi were getting physical post races. Not a great example either.

I think the point Spyda was making is that Rugby as an example of what racers should look to, is a poor one.

Biaggi and Rossi going at it was great for the sport. Everyone wanted to see what was gonna happen next week. Mibbee we need a real good rivalry to get spectators in.

[roogazza]

Anyway let's not get into that. AMCC have ways they can improve so let's hope this season sees some of that.

Getting away from HD a bit, but a a few posts back you mentioned Puke fitting in with the horses?
brought to mind the Levin Track which closed for similar reasons.
Great little track I used to ride up to from Wgton on a YDS3 to watch world class F1 Champs Jim Clark,Graham Hill etc in the 60s.
It closed anyway ,I think in the 70s . The Hutt club held some great meets there,so well organised and the only place I remember getting in 5 races in a day for every class !!!
Ironically I moved to the Horowhenua 2 years ago and about 5 minutes away.Must go and have a look to see if the track itself is still there ?
No buildings and the pits were paddock,I should buy it and put on trackdays for 30 bucks ???!!!

[malcy25]

AMCC have ways they can improve so let's hope this season sees some of that.

More correctly, AMCC ARE doing a very good job with the club series (2015/2016 season ripped), and there are aspects they may LIKE to consider whether the application of MAY provide benefit. Just because it was noted here, doesn't always mean it will drive a positive result overall for them and the way the events are run.

Rugby. Team sport skills etc, all good, but ultimately to me it comes across as a "religion" that holds NZ to ransom. I await the national day of mourning when the AB's lose next - and yes, that is a known fact, productivity etc does reduce and if I recall correctly, counts of domestic violence increases. What's with that!?

[Drew]

More correctly, AMCC ARE doing a very good job with the club series (2015/2016 season ripped), and there are aspects they may LIKE to consider whether the application of MAY provide benefit. Just because it was noted here, doesn't always mean it will drive a positive result overall for them and the way the events are run.

Rugby. Team sport skills etc, all good, but ultimately to me it comes across as a "religion" that holds NZ to ransom. I await the national day of mourning when the AB's lose next - and yes, that is a known fact, productivity etc does reduce and if I recall correctly, counts of domestic violence increases. What's with that!?

More like a religion when you consider they don't get taxed the way others do. There are no ACC costs for rugby players, and they get fucked up all the time.

[jellywrestler]

Getting away from HD a bit, but a a few posts back you mentioned Puke fitting in with the horses?
brought to mind the Levin Track which closed for similar reasons.

i spent some time with Syd Jensen and he mentioned the opening of manfield and the lease on some of our native mud people's land being an issue. plus he siad they'd been doing it for so long the commitee gave it a miss. i can see the horsey thing being in there too.

[sharp2183]

More correctly, AMCC ARE doing a very good job with the club series (2015/2016 season ripped), and there are aspects they may LIKE to consider whether the application of MAY provide benefit. Just because it was noted here, doesn't always mean it will drive a positive result overall for them and the way the events are run.

Rugby. Team sport skills etc, all good, but ultimately to me it comes across as a "religion" that holds NZ to ransom. I await the national day of mourning when the AB's lose next - and yes, that is a known fact, productivity etc does reduce and if I recall correctly, counts of domestic violence increases. What's with that!?

Sure, noted. AMCC are doing a good job. I wasn't meaning to heap any unfair criticism on them. I love riding there and hope they keep up the good work. I was just expressing my opinion and how I think they could improve. It doesn't mean I'm right.

I hear what you are saying re. religion. I actually agree. However no different to football in Europe or other sports in other countries. I was in Portugal when they won the Euros and even an All Blacks WC win doesn't have as much of an impact. I was also at the MotoGP in Brno and noticed that 'religion' and 'Rossi' rival anything the All Blacks have. Rugby is not special, it just happens to be the massively favoured sport in NZ, while we love a minority sport. I also was under the impression that ACC was covered by club fees. Might be wrong.

But I'm not debating any of that, I was just saying that perhaps there are things we can learn from other sports and the way their participants and clubs work.

[ellipsis]

I hear what you are saying re. religion. I actually agree. However no different to football in Europe or other sports in other countries. I was in Portugal when they won the Euros and even an All Blacks WC win doesn't have as much of an impact. I was also at the MotoGP in Brno and noticed that 'religion' and 'Rossi' rival anything the All Blacks have. Rugby is not special, it just happens to be the massively favoured sport in NZ, while we love a minority sport. I also was under the impression that ACC was covered by club fees. Might be wrong.

...all of this...

[roogazza]

i spent some time with Syd Jensen and he mentioned the opening of manfield and the lease on some of our native mud people's land being an issue. plus he siad they'd been doing it for so long the commitee gave it a miss. i can see the horsey thing being in there too.

"Mud people'

Yes , Clubs seem to hold the Key don't they ? I have a close friend who was an organiser of Gracefield (together with other friends in the Hutt club) .
It was a lot of work pulling everything together for a Meet.
Remember one year they were short of workers at the circuit and a whole gang of riders were down there sweeping and putting up haybales the night before !
But like everything I suppose,nothings forever ! No organisers no racing.

[Bass]

I think the point Spyda was making is that Rugby as an example of what racers should look to, is a poor one.

Biaggi and Rossi going at it was great for the sport. Everyone wanted to see what was gonna happen next week. Mibbee we need a real good rivalry to get spectators in.

So you're saying that rugby is a GOOD example then?

[Dreama]

Racers bagging rugby and team sports is pretty stupid.
As 'sharp2183' said earlier, team sport teaches a completely different value to individualistic sport. Anyone that has watched their sons and daughters grow up playing team sport will know what an outstanding culture it instils in them.
That culture and attitude is quite possibly why we punch well above our weigh internationally over the whole sporting spectrum.
I've played and coached both senior and junior rugby and watched many young kids and men develop into really good people. As a rule, the thugs and dead beats of society don't play sport because it requires attitudes and discipline they don't posses.
The dumb cunts who think that punching and eye gouging is a part and parcel of rugby are so far off the mark it's farcical. Eye gouging in particular is so rare that when it actually does happen it's a very big deal. Punching used to happen quite a bit in the lower senior and youth levels, not so much nowadays. But, granted, it still does occasionally but it's young guys playing a physical game so of course it's going to happen. They get punished pretty severely now and it's definitely not encouraged.
So then we get motorsports., in our case motorcycles.
Fuck, is their any sport that is more selfish and financially destructive ?
Ask me how I know that.

[jellywrestler]

Mibbee we need a real good rivalry to get spectators in.

junior motorcross daddies do that shit.

[jasonu]

also teaches you that it's ok to throw punches and eye gouges and other shit....

touching up strippers...