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    Question ACC is making changes & wants your feedback

    Believe it or not they actually want to listen to what we have to say!

    https://www.shapeyouracc.co.nz/propo...rcycle-levies/

    Check it out, have a read and give some good feedback guys... I think this has gone under the radar so I'm glad I found it!

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    Vehicle type Motorcycles 600cc or less
    Current levy $297.91
    Levy based on actual cost of claims $1,285

    Vehicle type Motorcycles over 600cc
    Current levy $397.18
    Levy based on actual cost of claims $2,369

    Ok sweet so it's user pays now?

    Get fucked rugby injuries I don't play so i'm not gonna pay oh also get fucked dole i'm employed so ain't gonna contribute to that fund you cocksuckers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Sichoe View Post
    Vehicle type Motorcycles 600cc or less
    Current levy $297.91
    Levy based on actual cost of claims $1,285

    Vehicle type Motorcycles over 600cc
    Current levy $397.18
    Levy based on actual cost of claims $2,369

    Ok sweet so it's user pays now?

    Get fucked rugby injuries I don't play so i'm not gonna pay oh also get fucked dole i'm employed so ain't gonna contribute to that fund you cocksuckers
    Actually, if you read it carefully you'll note that their suggestion currently states that they wish to keep motorcycle levies the same.

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    "Many motorcyclists own more than one bike, so you pay two or three times over but can only be at risk on one bike at a time. By ACC logic owners of small cars should be charged higher for the risk they are at when being hit by a large vehicle like a truck, its their fault for being in a smaller vehicle.
    Many off highway motorcycle injuries ACC claims through farming and motocross sports incidents are also lumped into general motorcycle claim data unfairly distorting stats of registered bike crash claims.
    If the system is truly to be no fault and with many injuries to bikers being from car drivers fault at times then the levies need to be greatly reduced.
    The levy (a defacto forced injury insurance) takes no measure of a riders actual crash or claim history. And just like a real insurance policy you cant be expected to pay for the full cost of claims, that's why you have insurance in first place. With ACC we lost the right to sue for injury costs, yet the ACC levy is more than what a lawyer would charge. I've made NO ACC motorbike injury claim in last 20 years but paid about $6000 in ACC levies over multiple bikes in that time.
    The levy has no influence on rider behaviour or vehicle maintainance standard. How about a substantial rebate or subsidies on purchase of high quality protective riding gear.
    Also take away the $25 levy for Gareth Morgan and his mates to sit around holding hands, nothing substantial has come out of those meetings yet in regards to improving safety.
    The ACC motorbike Levy is nothing but a slow and steady way of ending the freedom of travel by motorcycles as they don't fit in with the future of driverless electric cars.
    Why is my car only $86 levy with its 200kw engine and the ability to injure myself and up to four passengers at the same time?
    Yet on the 35kw 650cc bike with a vested interest in not being hurt its $400.
    If ACC closed down tomorrow I'm sure my insurer would add personal injury cover for under $400 extra and cover me across all my vehicles. Stop ripping us off."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorno View Post
    Actually, if you read it carefully you'll note that their suggestion currently states that they wish to keep motorcycle levies the same.
    yeah with a token reduction to electric bikes....

    If they are that desperate for cash why even reduce the one cent of petrol lol. that's the only part that makes sense as you are actually paying when you are riding, not when three bikes are in the shed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorno View Post
    Actually, if you read it carefully you'll note that their suggestion currently states that they wish to keep motorcycle levies the same.
    Nah man I did read it but the writing is on the wall when they start highlighting facts like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorno View Post
    Believe it or not they actually want to listen to what we have to say!
    No they don't.
    They are merely "ticking the box" of supposedly engaging the relevant community.
    After everything dies down the outcome will be (after filtering the results through their "researchers") what they really wanted.
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    This is my 2cents worth of question.


    Why when I can only ride one bike at a time do I need pay the acc content of registration for each bike?
    I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.

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    I Know, lets start a protest movement, ride to Devonport on a Sunday morning, park up and have a coffee, that will tell them what for

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatMax View Post
    I Know, lets start a protest movement, ride to Devonport on a Sunday morning, park up and have a coffee, that will tell them what for
    Someone would crash.
    I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.

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    I pay almost $1000 a year in reg on my two bike and less than $100 for my car.

    Acc, you can fuck right off......

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    I mean, at the end of the day....
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/at...6&d=1474605354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    No they don't.
    They are merely "ticking the box" of supposedly engaging the relevant community.
    After everything dies down the outcome will be (after filtering the results through their "researchers") what they really wanted.
    yeap .. they didn't listen last time .. they won't listen this time .. I won't be wasting my breath ..
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    $474m cost of covering sport and recreation, yet this isn't levied separately. Motorcycle crash cover is less than $400m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    This is my 2cents worth of question.


    Why when I can only ride one bike at a time do I need pay the acc content of registration for each bike?
    Because you own multiple plates, one registration (and all levies that go with each registration) per plate.

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