Science discovers something that our (NZ) "moon man" has been saying for years?

**oldrider** · 4th October 2016, 14:40

Hasn't our "moon man" been saying this for years? - Now it's news! http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and...ampaign=buffer

Science gets applause - while he gets accused of stirring shit! - Yeah that figures!

**TheDemonLord** · 4th October 2016, 14:47

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hasn't our "moon man" been saying this for years? - Now it's news! http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and...ampaign=buffer

Science gets applause - while he gets accused of stirring shit! - Yeah that figures!

You really should read the scientific paper...

First line:

The possibility that tidal stress can trigger earthquakes is long debated

**oldrider** · 4th October 2016, 15:12

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

You really should read the scientific paper...

First line:

As usual you are convinced at the first line - no need to read any further I now know it all - normalcy in a nutshell.

stick with what works for you I guess!

**TheDemonLord** · 4th October 2016, 15:52

Originally Posted by oldrider

As usual you are convinced at the first line - no need to read any further I now know it all - normalcy in a nutshell.

stick with what works for you I guess!

Not At all. My Critique is not on the content of the paper per-se, but that it paints a very different headline from the one you lead with, You are framing it as if Science suddenly came up with a new theory that someone else has been espousing for a while, with the implication that the treatment of the moon man was unjust.

The reality however is different - Science was aware of this theory and had discussed it (implying a pre-existing level of credibility to the theory), but lacked the research and evidence to validate the hypothesis.

**Ocean1** · 4th October 2016, 17:18

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hasn't our "moon man" been saying this for years? - Now it's news! http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and...ampaign=buffer

Science gets applause - while he gets accused of stirring shit! - Yeah that figures!

Actually, science has been saying the very same thing for years also.

So it's not only not unique to our moon man, (who I've never heard of) but it's not actually news either.

**bogan** · 4th October 2016, 17:27

Oldy, I think you'll find it is not something science has just discovered. It's a theory which has been around for many years, longer than the so called 'moon' so called 'man' has been around I would suggest.

**Kickaha** · 4th October 2016, 18:00

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

with the implication that the treatment of the moon man was unjust.

It wasn't, he was a scaremongering fuckwit, proven wrong time and time again

**Grumph** · 4th October 2016, 18:53

Originally Posted by Kickaha

It wasn't, he was a scaremongering fuckwit, proven wrong time and time again

True in relation to the quakes - and at the time he needed smacking.

But his crop planting predictions are popular - and seem to work.

Now if only he'd stuck to that....

**AllanB** · 4th October 2016, 19:00

John Cambell killed the moon man. Now that was a remarkably poor piece of journalism by Mr C and the start of his decline into NZ oblivion.

**russd7** · 4th October 2016, 19:57

yup, the moon mans' long term weather forecasting was surprisingly accurate where as his earthquake forecasting was unsurprisingly inaccurate but did put the shits up a lot of fools

**Virago** · 4th October 2016, 19:59

Originally Posted by AllanB

John Cambell killed the moon man. Now that was a remarkably poor piece of journalism by Mr C and the start of his decline into NZ oblivion.

I agree to a certain extent. Campbell basically lynched Ken Ring, shouting at him and giving him no chance to speak. It was an appalling display of journalistic bullying.

Mr Ring has a loyal band of followers, much like "clairvoyants" who also make vague predictions which can later be manipulated. His earthquake predictions, despite usually being on a wide time-frame, are invariably wrong. His weather predictions are laughable, simply basing predictions on NZ's regular westerly patterns of change - on more than one occasion he was caught out changing his predicted weather maps on his website.

In short he's a charlatan who cleverly plays the laws of averages to convince people of his supposed skills.

**Scuba_Steve** · 4th October 2016, 20:24

Originally Posted by Virago

I agree to a certain extent. Campbell basically lynched Ken Ring, shouting at him and giving him no chance to speak. It was an appalling display of journalistic bullying.

Mr Ring has a loyal band of followers, much like "clairvoyants" who also make vague predictions which can later be manipulated. His earthquake predictions, despite usually being on a wide time-frame, are invariably wrong. His weather predictions are laughable, simply basing predictions on NZ's regular westerly patterns of change - on more than one occasion he was caught out changing his predicted weather maps on his website.

In short he's a charlatan who cleverly plays the laws of averages to convince people of his supposed skills.

So... What you're saying is he fits perfectly with the careers of Meteorologist, Seismologist, or Climatologist

**Virago** · 4th October 2016, 20:32

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

So... What you're saying is he fits perfectly with the careers of Meteorologist, Seismologist, or Climatologist

...about whom he has been very scornful over the years. Yet he doesn't appear to have any greater ability of specific weather or earthquake prediction.

**jasonu** · 5th October 2016, 05:14

Originally Posted by oldrider

Hasn't our "moon man" been saying this for years? - Now it's news! http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and...ampaign=buffer

Science gets applause - while he gets accused of stirring shit! - Yeah that figures!

Not bad for a country with only 4 million people...