First of the "three strikes" warnings for violent offenders given...

**PrincessBandit** · 2nd November 2016, 14:26

WTF?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...sault-on-woman

Kumar pleaded guilty to aggravated burglary, intentionally causing grievous bodily harm, threatening to kill, assault with a weapon, assaulting a woman, and intimidation.

Judge Paul Kellar suppressed the victim's name and read Kumar the first of the three strike warnings for violent offenders.

The judge said the unprovoked attack was prolonged, painful, and extremely frightening, and the victim suffered long term emotional effects.

It was premeditated offending, and Kumar had planned for her to suffer a prolonged torture.

He said Kumar's ingrained views from his upbringing led to the offending.

So does he get another "go" before getting his third strike? What unfortunate victim has to be his second or third before ...well, before what? Can anyone explain what the consequences are if you're only a "first or second strike" offender of shit like this?

**Akzle** · 2nd November 2016, 15:03

worry not, fair maiden. the bus tickets are being moistened even as we speak.

**jasonu** · 2nd November 2016, 15:12

What the fuck does he have to do to earn the next 2 strikes?

**Banditbandit** · 2nd November 2016, 15:29

he got 10 years in prison, within a non-parole period of five years,

The thrre strikes rule means if he offends again - after he gets out - then the next sentence will be harsher ..

hardly "another go" ... he'll be inside for at least five years - and probably longer ...

**Voltaire** · 2nd November 2016, 15:36

Originally Posted by Akzle

worry not, fair maiden. the bus tickets are being moistened even as we speak.

Slapped with an AT Hop card doesn't sound quite the same.

**Hemi Makutu** · 2nd November 2016, 18:00

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Slapped with an AT Hop card doesn't sound quite the same.

Likely, it was a close family member he dealt to - on a 'cultural honour' basis, since he didn't rape her..

Any short time will be predicated on expressed 'remorse' & undertakings not to re-offend..

& is that convict who attacked the female District Court Judge - with a machete - out yet?

**BuzzardNZ** · 2nd November 2016, 18:31

Deport the cunt.

**Moi** · 2nd November 2016, 19:45

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

Deport the cunt.

I tend to think along these lines as well...

does jail time then has his residency or nationalisation revoked...

**pritch** · 2nd November 2016, 21:20

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

Deport the cunt.

Agreed. And it does happen sometimes. Somebody gets a perk flight to Bangaladesh or wherever as escort. If there is anyone on earth who actually thinks a flight to Bangladesh is a perk?

**awa355** · 3rd November 2016, 16:22

I may be wrong, (although I've been a KB'r for some time), but Wasn't that law changed a while back to mean that an offender has to be found guilty of the SAME offence 3 times for the 3 strikes crap to apply?.

**FJRider** · 3rd November 2016, 18:21

You can read about it here ...

http://sst.org.nz/our-aims/sst-three-strikes-policy/

An "Interesting" comment in Stuff.co.nz ...

Stuff.co.nz understands at least two people have been eligible for third strikes, but judges decided serving a maximum sentence without parole would be manifestly unjust.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ter-five-years

Labour Party justice spokesperson Jacinda Ardern said she did not accept figures showed the bill worked, and that more specific research should be done.

Labour wanted the law gone, as it took away judges' power to look at the circumstances around an offence, with the party wanting to put more focus on helping offenders turn away from crime, she said.

More emphasis on programmes for young offenders and prisoners was a way that could be done.

"You have got to change people's desire to offend in the first place, or their circumstances," Ardern said.

**mashman** · 3rd November 2016, 19:49

Bullet....

**WristTwister** · 3rd November 2016, 20:15

"Nationally, 5378 first strikes and 76 second strikes have been given"

That looks like it's working. We already have a stressed justice system and anything that keeps offending (and reoffending) down has some social benefit.

**mossy1200** · 3rd November 2016, 20:58

Originally Posted by WristTwister

"Nationally, 5378 first strikes and 76 second strikes have been given"

That looks like it's working. We already have a stressed justice system and anything that keeps offending (and reoffending) down has some social benefit.

5302 are still awaiting release from strike one.

**Akzle** · 4th November 2016, 04:52

Originally Posted by WristTwister

"Nationally, 5378 first strikes and 76 second strikes have been given"

That looks like it's working. We already have a stressed justice system and anything that keeps offending (and reoffending) down has some social benefit.

what fucking planet are you from