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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Years ago FB or PB did a test with a linishing belt simple Kelar weave was the winner.
    they used simple $10 kelar gloves that looked like normal cotton gloves


    That is not to say thats the only requirement for protective gear.
    Do you mean KEVLAR ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Do you mean KEVLAR ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    v buttons Stuck?
    CRC will fix it ... Cassina will tell you the same ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Every bike accident is totally subjective in respect to each individual incident. You can only do your best. Best is governed by perceived risk, available cash and practicality. The best accident avoidance tactic is being happy and comfortable. Then you layer gear and skill and observation and everything else on top. How you get comfortable and happy is up to you, but I really think that masturbation is a thing best left in private.
    Mostly it is depending on most convenience for ...

    a. Ride to be made.

    b. Affordability for the rider.

    c. Image you wish to present.

    No protective gear will ever keep you unscathed in EVERY accident situation. Most will just reduce a lot of damage.

    The best gear you can afford may not keep you alive ... but that's the way to bet. Some win ... some lose.
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    CRC will fix it ... Cassina will tell you the same ....
    Cassinas on a a group ride with Katmans and Axkel and oldie at the moment
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Cassinas on a a group ride with Katmans and Axkel and oldie at the moment

    Ouch - that's a bit hard on those three isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Ouch - that's a bit hard on those three isn't it?
    only if you don't know Katman and Cassina are actually the same person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Mostly it is depending on most convenience for ...

    a. Ride to be made.

    b. Affordability for the rider.

    c. Image you wish to present.

    No protective gear will ever keep you unscathed in EVERY accident situation. Most will just reduce a lot of damage.

    The best gear you can afford may not keep you alive ... but that's the way to bet. Some win ... some lose.
    Yeah. That's what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Cassinas on a a group ride with Katmans and Axkel and oldie at the moment
    Who's riding who ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman1 View Post
    It is good to get real reports from riders that have actually been down the road on their backsides.
    They are the real test pilots.
    There is one big off I'll admit to. Guzzi V11 Sport. Wet road and raining. Overtaking two cars at once on a straight road. Hit shiny spot at (ahem) 110. Low sided. Slid a loooong way but not as far as the bike which slid rotating and shedding $ signs ahead of me. BMW oversuit looked like a colander afterwards. Dainese Diablo leather suit just minor scrapes. BMW helmet written off. No injuries apart from a few bruises and badly dented ego.

    When road racers wear other than leather I may too.

    So easy to add a rain oversuit to keep dry in leathers. I prefer two piece ones and often wear just the top over leathers when it's cold. An easy way to shed warmth as the day warms without having to remove a jacket to get at what's worn under it.

    If I was just commuting at slow speeds I would consider fabric though.

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    Had a lapse of concentration and foolishly put the fornt end on a manhole cover on frosty morning recently....
    First tarmac off in Textile, low speed and my older RST jacket that I only use for going to work....
    Was surprised at the amount of damage at impact point, which was right on one of those button bits that snug sleeves tighter, munted the metal button and small $2 coin size rip in outer material.
    My double layer heavy duty cotton work pants actually sustained less damage, only slightly ripping outer layer by knee and the obligatory friction grab/burn - graze.
    Think textiles defenitaly be single use only in anything faster than this which was about 30k on 90 deg lefty....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamA View Post

    When road racers wear other than leather I may too.

    YES !!! Racing riders do NOT wear Fabric ... what does that tell you ???
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    YES !!! Racing riders do NOT wear Fabric ... what does that tell you ???
    And basketball players don't use the granny-style shot when throwing free pointers. In this instance (using leather) it is probably for a reason but it isn't always because it is better.

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    When I first moved over the ditch, I can recall looking at the local road surface, sharp facetted granite chip with all the pointy bits up, about 2 grit, and thinking " shit, I wouldn't want to arse off and slide down this road!".
    Well, thanks to stray wildlife, I did, and I did! A 70kph faceplant over the bars. Luckily I was still in the NZ
    habit of wearing full leathers, etc. I ground through my right shoulder and shirt, both knee sliders down to nubbins, and the front and visor of an Arai! A wee bit of scarring on my shoulder is the only reminder.
    I just don't want to think what it would have been like with the fabric jacket and draggins.....
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    After watching the vid below and checking motocap site don’t think I’ll ever buy textiles again... already moving back to leathers.
    One interesting thing of note “Burst strength” is behaviour of product typically in a lower speed crash where you drive a limb harder and more directly into the ground than say a higher speed long slide impact. Chip seal abrasion is 4 times more than ashphalt.
    The motocap Webb site show some even the expensive Klim gear is only 3/10 compared to my cheaper 1/10 gear, leather product size typically acting close to if not an actual 10/10....

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