MotoGP 2017

[Autech]

Folger was one of the stars of winter testing and he was as high as second fastest in FP1 at one point. A podium might be withing his reach during the season.

One pundit was saying MM's new found maturity might go out the window in the face of serious challenges from MV in particular or to a lesser extent Pedro or Rossi.

I did a whiteboard session with my work mate and worked out that this year the "just finishing" method might not be enough for a championship this year. Last year MM did not have DP taking points from him when he wasn't on form and the Suzuki's n Ducati's weren't quite good enough to rob him of points often. That and Rossi and Lorenzo both biffed bikes from good solid finishing spots when they were caught out by the Mitchies all which surmounted to, in my opinion, Marquez's best championship yet.

This year the "just finishing" might end up with lots of riders/bikes finishing ahead. Here's the riders I think are capable this year of finishing in the top 5 every race:
DP
MM
VR
MV
JL
AD
AI (more likely to crash when up there)
AR (once he gets on pace which he's shown promise so far)
CC (the real dark horse)

That's 9 riders all going for good points, an off race might end up with you in 10th place...

You'll also see the likes of Folger and Zarco up there on occasion too so it's going to be a shit fight for every point you can get.

Bring it on I say.

[pritch]

I did a whiteboard session with my work mate and worked out that this year the "just finishing" method might not be enough for a championship this year. Last year MM did not have DP taking points from him when he wasn't on form and the Suzuki's n Ducati's weren't quite good enough to rob him of points often. That and Rossi and Lorenzo both biffed bikes from good solid finishing spots when they were caught out by the Mitchies all which surmounted to, in my opinion, Marquez's best championship yet.

This year the "just finishing" might end up with lots of riders/bikes finishing ahead. Here's the riders I think are capable this year of finishing in the top 5 every race:
DP
MM
VR
MV
JL
AD
AI (more likely to crash when up there)
AR (once he gets on pace which he's shown promise so far)
CC (the real dark horse)

That's 9 riders all going for good points, an off race might end up with you in 10th place...

You'll also see the likes of Folger and Zarco up there on occasion too so it's going to be a shit fight for every point you can get.

Bring it on I say.

I'm no mathematician but I'm not sure if there can be more than "five finishing in the top five every race" but even more serious, you left out Jonas Fucking Folger.

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[speights_bud]

One of the Honda engines must have shit itself in practice? Crutchlow returned to the pits on a scooter, his boots reported to be full of oil.

Post practice Crutchlow mentioned they had an oil leak. That's about all he had to say

[BMWST?]

fp2 a bit of a game changer.It had rained so grip ws low .The factory boys could be in for a real up and down season
If they have a bad day they could be out of the top ten! MV first "official crash

1	45	Scott REDDING	GBR	OCTO Pramac Racing	Ducati	343.2	1'55.085
2	4	Andrea DOVIZIOSO	ITA	Ducati Team	Ducati	347.8	1'55.185	0.100 / 0.100
3	94	Jonas FOLGER	GER	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	341.0	1'55.208	0.123 / 0.023
4	5	Johann ZARCO	FRA	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	344.8	1'55.316	0.231 / 0.108
5	25	Maverick VIÑALES	SPA	Movistar Yamaha MotoGP	Yamaha	342.7	1'55.378	0.293 / 0.062
6	46	Valentino ROSSI	ITA	Movistar Yamaha MotoGP	Yamaha	341.7	1'55.414	0.329 / 0.036
7	19	Alvaro BAUTISTA	SPA	Pull&Bear Aspar Team	Ducati	349.6	1'55.581	0.496 / 0.167
8	99	Jorge LORENZO	SPA	Ducati Team	Ducati	347.8	1'55.604	0.519 / 0.023
9	93	Marc MARQUEZ	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	341.5	1'55.698	0.613 / 0.094
10	41	Aleix ESPARGARO	SPA	Aprilia Racing Team Gresini	Aprilia	339.9	1'55.750	0.665 / 0.052
11	9	Danilo PETRUCCI	ITA	OCTO Pramac Racing	Ducati	344.3	1'55.760	0.675 / 0.010
12	35	Cal CRUTCHLOW	GBR	LCR Honda	Honda	341.2	1'55.828	0.743 / 0.068
13	43	Jack MILLER	AUS	EG 0,0 Marc VDS	Honda	341.7	1'55.959	0.874 / 0.131
14	17	Karel ABRAHAM	CZE	Pull&Bear Aspar Team	Ducati	345.7	1'56.003	0.918 / 0.044
15	29	Andrea IANNONE	ITA	Team SUZUKI ECSTAR	Suzuki	337.3	1'56.069	0.984 / 0.066
16	42	Alex RINS	SPA	Team SUZUKI ECSTAR	Suzuki	341.7	1'56.179	1.094 / 0.110
17	53	Tito RABAT	SPA	EG 0,0 Marc VDS	Honda	343.0	1'56.368	1.283 / 0.189
18	76	Loris BAZ	FRA	Reale Avintia Racing	Ducati	339.1	1'56.501	1.416 / 0.133
19	26	Dani PEDROSA	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	343.2	1'56.530	1.445 / 0.029
20	8	Hector BARBERA	SPA	Reale Avintia Racing	Ducati	345.8	1'56.934	1.849 / 0.404
21	44	Pol ESPARGARO	SPA	Red Bull KTM Factory Racing	KTM	342.7	1'57.116	2.031 / 0.182
22	22	Sam LOWES	GBR	Aprilia Racing Team Gresini	Aprilia	336.1	1'57.517	2.432 / 0.401
23	38	Bradley SMITH	GBR	Red Bull KTM Factory Racing	KTM	338.8	1'58.020	2.935 / 0.503

Weather Conditions:

| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 22º|Humidity: 84%| Ground: 25ºRecords:

[BMWST?]

MV back at the top Iannone comes good

1	25	Maverick VIÑALES	SPA	Movistar Yamaha MotoGP	Yamaha	339.5	1'54.834
2	29	Andrea IANNONE	ITA	Team SUZUKI ECSTAR	Suzuki	337.5	1'54.848	0.014 / 0.014
3	5	Johann ZARCO	FRA	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	341.0	1'55.008	0.174 / 0.160
4	4	Andrea DOVIZIOSO	ITA	Ducati Team	Ducati	348.0	1'55.042	0.208 / 0.034
5	26	Dani PEDROSA	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	344.0	1'55.113	0.279 / 0.071
6	35	Cal CRUTCHLOW	GBR	LCR Honda	Honda	339.8	1'55.211	0.377 / 0.098
7	93	Marc MARQUEZ	SPA	Repsol Honda Team	Honda	343.0	1'55.296	0.462 / 0.085
8	9	Danilo PETRUCCI	ITA	OCTO Pramac Racing	Ducati	344.7	1'55.435	0.601 / 0.139
9	99	Jorge LORENZO	SPA	Ducati Team	Ducati	348.7	1'55.461	0.627 / 0.026
10	41	Aleix ESPARGARO	SPA	Aprilia Racing Team Gresini	Aprilia	344.8	1'55.634	0.800 / 0.173
11	19	Alvaro BAUTISTA	SPA	Pull&Bear Aspar Team	Ducati	347.0	1'55.676	0.842 / 0.042
12	94	Jonas FOLGER	GER	Monster Yamaha Tech 3	Yamaha	338.3	1'55.713	0.879 / 0.037
13	46	Valentino ROSSI	ITA	Movistar Yamaha MotoGP	Yamaha	342.6	1'55.790	0.956 / 0.077
14	17	Karel ABRAHAM	CZE	Pull&Bear Aspar Team	Ducati	345.6	1'56.095	1.261 / 0.305
15	42	Alex RINS	SPA	Team SUZUKI ECSTAR	Suzuki	341.3	1'56.249	1.415 / 0.154
16	53	Tito RABAT	SPA	EG 0,0 Marc VDS	Honda	339.9	1'56.617	1.783 / 0.368
17	45	Scott REDDING	GBR	OCTO Pramac Racing	Ducati	342.7	1'56.662	1.828 / 0.045
18	43	Jack MILLER	AUS	EG 0,0 Marc VDS	Honda	341.7	1'56.692	1.858 / 0.030
19	22	Sam LOWES	GBR	Aprilia Racing Team Gresini	Aprilia	336.3	1'56.854	2.020 / 0.162
20	76	Loris BAZ	FRA	Reale Avintia Racing	Ducati	338.3	1'56.935	2.101 / 0.081
21	8	Hector BARBERA	SPA	Reale Avintia Racing	Ducati	345.8	1'57.005	2.171 / 0.070
22	44	Pol ESPARGARO	SPA	Red Bull KTM Factory Racing	KTM	340.1	1'57.630	2.796 / 0.625
23	38	Bradley SMITH	GBR	Red Bull KTM Factory Racing	KTM	336.8	1'57.654	2.820 / 0.024

Weather Conditions:

| Track Condition: Dry| Air: 22º|Humidity: 89%| Ground: 22ºRecords:

[BMWST?]

I admit i am an MV fan but he IS clocking impressive times!.I am thinking he wont start as well as the others as starting was a bit average last season.

[Dadpole]

I gather the starting problem was mainly down to the Suzuki as Asparagus had issues on it too.

Interesting FP3 though. In Moto2 the VDS team look very good. I note that some UK bookies have Fenati favourite for the Moto3 crown.

[EJK]

I admit i am an MV fan but he IS clocking impressive times!.I am thinking he wont start as well as the others as starting was a bit average last season.

In the past season he's always been quick on the clock but struggled during actual racing when things go aggressive and traffic is in the way. If he takes the pole position then he just might stay in first place and win the race?

Bloody hell Iannone seemed toying everyone. "Meh I'll just cruise along..." and at the last lap he jumps to 2nd from 17th position. Wth?

[pritch]

and at the last lap he jumps to 2nd from 17th position. Wth?

He put soft tyres on but it's doubted that he can use them in the race. That and he's never been short of bravery?

[Autech]

He put soft tyres on but it's doubted that he can use them in the race. That and he's never been short of bravery?

He is mad joe after all... Lol.

New predictions:
MV
DP
MM
AD
JL
VR
CC

Wish I had waited a bit to do my tab shit lol


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[pritch]

Don't sweat it. The conditions were described as "very very" slippery so may or may not be irrelevant to the race.

Dorna were still discussing what to do in the event of wet weather. They can race if every single rider agrees, or postpone the race a day as they did previously. Of course such a postponement causes havoc with airline bookings.

Interestingly many riders apparently continue to refer to morning and afternoon practice sessions at Qatar, despite both actually being in the evening.

[Kornholio]

I just threw 5 bucks on Crutchlow.. hope he not too banged up haha

[pritch]

We like to criticise Harris et al but the commentators received praise for the job they did this morning. I've got a coffee and am ready to watch for a while, perhaps even to admire Nick Harri's professionalism. Perhaps.

[Autech]

We like to criticise Harris et al but the commentators received praise for the job they did this morning. I've got a coffee and am ready to watch for a while, perhaps even to admire Nick Harri's professionalism. Perhaps.

So the git is back again? Every year I hope...


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[Mental Trousers]

The weather is still pissing about. Qualifying cancelled due to weather so the grid is combined times from practices.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/0...ractice/221961

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
1 25 Maverick Viñales Yamaha 1'54.316
2 29 Andrea Iannone Suzuki 1'54.848 0.532 0.532
3 93 Marc Marquez Honda 1'54.912 0.596 0.064
4 5 Johann Zarco Yamaha 1'55.008 0.692 0.096
5 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati 1'55.042 0.726 0.034
6 45 Scott Redding Ducati 1'55.085 0.769 0.043
7 26 Dani Pedrosa Honda 1'55.113 0.797 0.028
8 94 Jonas Folger Yamaha 1'55.713 0.892 0.095
9 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda 1'55.211 0.895 0.003
10 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'55.414 1.098 0.203
11 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati 1'55.435 1.119 0.021
12 99 Jorge Lorenzo Ducati 1'55.461 1.145 0.026
13 19 Alvaro Bautista Ducati 1'55.581 1.265 0.120
14 76 Loris Baz Ducati 1'55.624 1.308 0.043
15 41 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia 1'55.634 1.318 0.010
16 43 Jack Miller Honda 1'55.959 1.643 0.325
17 17 Karel Abraham Ducati 1'56.003 1.687 0.044
18 42 Alex Rins Suzuki 1'56.179 1.863 0.176
19 53 Tito Rabat Honda 1'56.368 2.052 0.189
20 8 Hector Barbera Ducati 1'56.725 2.409 0.357
21 22 Sam Lowes Aprilia 1'56.854 2.538 0.129
22 44 Pol Espargaro KTM 1'57.116 2.800 0.262
23 38 Bradley Smith KTM 1'57.654 3.338 0.538