MotoGP 2017

**pritch** · 27th June 2017, 06:31

I know some of you don't like it, but the latest "Dear George" was a good one. I was thinking that George himself may not be aware of it since it originates from Australia, but I see one of the Brit commentators recommending it, so people up there know about it.

Further comments on Rossi's new frame suggest it is a hybrid 2016/2017 job. Be interesting to see how he goes at the Sachsenring which tends to favour the Honda riders.

Meanwhile this: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...ost-speechless

**Autech** · 27th June 2017, 08:58

Originally Posted by pritch

I know some of you don't like it, but the latest "Dear George" was a good one. I was thinking that George himself may not be aware of it since it originates from Australia, but I see one of the Brit commentators recommending it, so people up there know about it.

Further comments on Rossi's new frame suggest it is a hybrid 2016/2017 job. Be interesting to see how he goes at the Sachsenring which tends to favour the Honda riders.

Meanwhile this: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...ost-speechless

I take it Oxley is fanboi? "Only 2 riders kept pushing"? Erm, Dovi and Crutchlow just teleport to the front eh? Miller magic his way to 6th?

Rossi won a brilliant race yes, but fuck me do the pundits prat on about him whenever he wins a race

.

I wasn't the slightest surprised he won that race, he has the bike and the ablility to manage races like a baws and that's why when I saw his quali position I knew he was the dude to back for the win. If Rossi isn't far off the pace on a Friday or Sat he'll be faster on Sunday as he's a racers racer and races to race. MV seems to be a practice-quali racer, I'm the fastest therefore I should win all the time, he's learning though so lookout.

**Mental Trousers** · 27th June 2017, 16:48

Originally Posted by pritch

Policeman Petrucci deserves a factory ride. Preferably on a Ducati. He complained about the blue flag not being shown, but possibly the marshals are out of practice. There seemed to be more lapped riders than usual - one of whom was #99

All of those that got lapped had gone into the pits and swapped to bikes with wets on. The rain didn't materialize so the tyres were rapidly turning to shit and they were 5+ seconds a lap slower as well as the time it takes to swaps bikes.

**george formby** · 28th June 2017, 22:07

Will BMW enter Motogp? In the next few years..

Just a thought. Recurring, as I watched this MCN vid. The HP4 racing, carbon, really fast version.

I'm impressed with the manufacturing technology, I would like to see BMW's idea of a MotoGP bike.

Interesting thought.

**Autech** · 29th June 2017, 13:25

So this weekend... Who we thinking, anyone dumb enough? This time it should be a bit safer to predict I think.
DP, MM and CC all run well there and it's apparently a Honda track... Could we see a locked down podium, cue Nick Harris voice, for the very very first time in a long long timeeee....

**Dadpole** · 29th June 2017, 13:32

I will let you know after FP1

New surface - new tyres - dodgy weather - new bikes (for some)...

**Autech** · 29th June 2017, 13:36

Originally Posted by Dadpole

I will let you know after FP1

New surface - new tyres - dodgy weather - new bikes (for some)...

I think that now Rossi has a chassis that is turning for him he'll start giving it to Maverick more.

I'm going to get my bets in early I think, hunch tells me who is going to win so need to play it out while the odds are good.

**Drew** · 29th June 2017, 13:40

Originally Posted by Autech

I think that now Rossi has a chassis that is turning for him he'll start giving it to Maverick more.

I'm going to get my bets in early I think, hunch tells me who is going to win so need to play it out while the odds are good.

I personally think Vinales hasn't finished finding the ground with his face. Otherwise he'd wrap the championship up with two rounds to go.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 29th June 2017, 14:38

Smart money is on MM. He'll do an Austin on their asses. He owns this place too.

**Autech** · 29th June 2017, 14:41

Originally Posted by Drew

I personally think Vinales hasn't finished finding the ground with his face. Otherwise he'd wrap the championship up with two rounds to go.

Yeah I think he's got the talent (obviously from his results) I just think he needs to realise that he's not the only one out there with talent.
It'd be really easy to win a race if the other guys went, oh Mavericks been fastest in all the practice sessions, I might as well just let him win as he's gods gift to racing.
His comments after races have given a good insight into his nature I think, I wouldn't call it ego I just sincerely think he's got the attitude that he's got the best package and pace therefore why didn't I win? He then says its the tyres or some voodo magic rather than an error by himself or his team. He also doesn't comprehend how track temp can change bikes performance so dramatically.
Until he self reflects a bit more and stops blaming other shit he'll continue to have crashes.

**steveyb** · 29th June 2017, 16:21

Originally Posted by Autech

Yeah I think he's got the talent (obviously from his results) I just think he needs to realise that he's not the only one out there with talent.
It'd be really easy to win a race if the other guys went, oh Mavericks been fastest in all the practice sessions, I might as well just let him win as he's gods gift to racing.
His comments after races have given a good insight into his nature I think, I wouldn't call it ego I just sincerely think he's got the attitude that he's got the best package and pace therefore why didn't I win? He then says its the tyres or some voodo magic rather than an error by himself or his team. He also doesn't comprehend how track temp can change bikes performance so dramatically.
Until he self reflects a bit more and stops blaming other shit he'll continue to have crashes.

The Spartan sword keeps spreading Yellow Puta Mamba butter on his tyres!

**pritch** · 29th June 2017, 21:10

Originally Posted by Drew

I personally think Vinales hasn't finished finding the ground with his face. Otherwise he'd wrap the championship up with two rounds to go.

The podcast I listened to most recently, the Paddock Pass podcast IIRC - so many podcasts, so little time - was talking about the Yamaha frame situation. Some suspect it is last year's, others think it a new hybrid. Nobody who actually knows will say. Whatever it is, Rossi is happy but Vinales is making no attempt to hide the fact that he is completely pissed off.

MV uses a high corner speed technique, not unlike Lorenzo, Rossi is more the last of the late brakers. Be nice if Yamaha could give each of them a chassis they like, they have frames that suit each of them now.

Last year when DP and MM rejected the new Honda frame, Honda asked CC to persist with it. He did and now the Honda riders all have the same frame, apparently a development of that frame - and CC has a works contract.

There was also discussion of the methodology employed within the Ducati factory team. It's normal for the highest ranked rider in the team to be left alone to sort his settings during practice. The number two rider often becomes a test rider, trying an assortment of new parts and in consequence having less time to work on a consistent setting. I don't know if George will be enjoying that.

Looking forward to the weekend. Dorna are currently offering their video subscription 39% off, if it drops to 50% afer the next race I may invest.

**BMWST?** · 29th June 2017, 21:48

Originally Posted by Autech

So this weekend... Who we thinking, anyone dumb enough? This time it should be a bit safer to predict I think.
DP, MM and CC all run well there and it's apparently a Honda track... Could we see a locked down podium, cue Nick Harris voice, for the very very first time in a long long timeeee....

its been newlty resealed....who knows what that will bring?