Why are some truck drivers so angry? A little road rage this morning...

[awayatc]

You can go fuck yourself as well.

If after all you have supposedly learned , with your few degrees and a masters,

Your best effort at a comeback is that

Then either education isn't what it's made out to be

Or it was wasted on you...

[Berries]

Hold on, I thought I was your hero........

I think you have me mixed up with Axle.

[jasonu]

Ahh, law student.

I've had a few law students telling me the law over the years. What would I know. After all, I only spent 25 years enforcing them.

Worst I ever had was the year 13 son of a QC telling me I had no right to write him up for a red light offence. Daddy chewed his arse when he found out.

Are you saying because a cop enforces laws he actually knows what he is talking about law wise?

[Akzle]

If after all you have supposedly learned , with your few degrees and a masters,

Your best effort at a comeback is that

Then either education isn't what it's made out to be

Or it was wasted on you...

rbgiafp!

I think you have me

lets just keep it honest shall we.

[rastuscat]

Are you saying because a cop enforces laws he actually knows what he is talking about law wise?

For sure most cops have a pretty good grasp of the laws they are enforcing. Not all, but certainly most.

Most have a more detailed knowledge of it than the average punter. Because it's them who get the egg on their face when it goes pear shaped.

Of course, it's easy to pick out individual examples of where cops have made mistakes. For every one of those examples, there are a hundred where it has gone right.

[pritch]

For sure most cops have a pretty good grasp of the laws they are enforcing. Not all, but certainly most.

Most have a more detailed knowledge of it than the average punter. Because it's them who get the egg on their face when it goes pear shaped.

Of course, it's easy to pick out individual examples of where cops have made mistakes. For every one of those examples, there are a hundred where it has gone right.

My understanding is the Traffic cops of old used to write up the paperwork by the roadside. They needed to have sufficient knowledge of the relevant laws to do that. Police now may or may not always do this, they take it back to the station where they can consult their betters. Particlularly if they are not specialist traffic cops.

The guy who told me that was a former Chief Traffic Officer so he may have been biased. Or not.

[FJRider]

My understanding is the Traffic cops of old used to write up the paperwork by the roadside. They needed to have sufficient knowledge of the relevant laws to do that. Police now may or may not always do this, they take it back to the station where they can consult their betters. Particlularly if they are not specialist traffic cops.

The guy who told me that was a former Chief Traffic Officer so he may have been biased. Or not.

The trucks and regulations pertaining to trucks and heavy vehicles were not so stringent or complicated as they are today. There is specialized heavy vehicle inspection teams working throughout the country (known by truckies as the God Squad).

http://www.police.govt.nz/advice/dri...forcement-cviu

Most Highway patrol will only stop trucks for obvious issues and rule breaking. If they dont have scales (Most HP dont) ... they may order said truck to a weigh bridge nearby if they believe it is (could be) overweight.

Any safety issues and the truck can ordered off the road. This is not a "drive it home and fix it" order ... the vehicle must be transported or repaired where it is.

Taking it back to the station is no longer an option.

[Stylo]

Haven't read this thread from start to finish but, how much feedback has there been from Truckies themselves ?

I don't drive a truck but work in an industry very dependant on them , hmm

[madbikeboy]

If after all you have supposedly learned , with your few degrees and a masters,

Your best effort at a comeback is that

Then either education isn't what it's made out to be

Or it was wasted on you...

My mother warned me about loose women. She was right, but for the wrong reasons.

Being the king of quick wit and repartee would be like being the tallest pygmie on this site. Years ago I got slated for intellectual musings. Hence giving precisely zero fucks on this here website.

[caspernz]

Haven't read this thread from start to finish but, how much feedback has there been from Truckies themselves ?

I don't drive a truck but work in an industry very dependant on them , hmm

There's been naff all feedback from actual truckies, for we're all either out trucking or riding our motorcycles. Maybe seeing off the odd prostitute but that's another tangent altogether...

The amount of contact I've had with Police or CVIU over the years has been varied, none of which has been any big deal to me personally.

The incident described by the OP should have been dealt with by going directly to the trucking firm concerned, IMHO. But no, let's have a good old whine on Kiddiebiker about it instead...

I give lane splitting bikers room where there's some to spare, but get a wee bit miffed with the lads who splice up between traffic in the narrowed roadworks sections.

[Stylo]

There's been naff all feedback from actual truckies, for we're all either out trucking or riding our motorcycles. Maybe seeing off the odd prostitute but that's another tangent altogether...

The amount of contact I've had with Police or CVIU over the years has been varied, none of which has been any big deal to me personally.

The incident described by the OP should have been dealt with by going directly to the trucking firm concerned, IMHO. But no, let's have a good old whine on Kiddiebiker about it instead...

I give lane splitting bikers room where there's some to spare, but get a wee bit miffed with the lads who splice up between traffic in the narrowed roadworks sections.

Thanks Casper , nice to see the start of some balance in all this.

[Brett]

I don't think you understand the question. Or the definition of irony.

As to a parade, while they absolutely should hold them in my honour, their a bit of a waste of time all round. Unless their's free candy and drugs.
Vote akzle.

I'd vote for you. As site nutter.

Chur bro.

[Brett]

My mother warned me about loose women. She was right, but for the wrong reasons.

Being the king of quick wit and repartee would be like being the tallest pygmie on this site. Years ago I got slated for intellectual musings. Hence giving precisely zero fucks on this here website.

This site is but a shadow's fart of what it was prior to 2010. Ahhh the good old days...

[Akzle]

For sure most cops have a pretty good grasp of the laws they are enforcing. Not all, but certainly most.

Most have a more detailed knowledge of it than the average punter. Because it's them who get the egg on their face when it goes pear shaped.

Of course, it's easy to pick out individual examples of where cops have made mistakes. For every one of those examples, there are a hundred where it has gone right.

*legislation

yeah. but also, and more like, nah. cops have a script to follow.
i wonder if you ever wonder, why you use the (legalese) language you do. so far 10/10 cops i've dealt with, do not.
i suspect you're no different.
don't get me wrong. you seem like one of the better ones, saving communities together and shit. just...misguided. so terribly misguided. and with that quaint old faith of "king-and-country" sanctimonious bullshit.

Police now may or may not always do this, they take it back to the station where they can consult their betters. Particlularly if they are not specialist traffic cops.

iphone yo. shit's all "on the wire" MAN! scan your barcode and the ticket's IN THE MAIL, MAN! don't even need to cite the statute or nothing... got a legal defense? waste your time with a LAWyer man! cop's don't know that shit.
want legal section on the phone? habeus corpus at 3AM? every lawyerjew loves a comedian, and the cops that bring them to em.

Most Highway patrol will only stop trucks for obvious issues and rule breaking. If they dont have scales (Most HP dont) ... they may order said truck to a weigh bridge nearby if they believe it is (could be) overweight.

HP might not but those CVIU wagons do. and fuck if they wont lay them out for you to put a tractor over.

get a real fucking job you dickheads. like $6000 of soft rubber is going to fuck the road.

[R650R]

Any safety issues and the truck can ordered off the road. This is not a "drive it home and fix it" order ... the vehicle must be transported or repaired where it is.

Taking it back to the station is no longer an option.

No its just the same as cars, CVIU and cops will use their individual discretion as to whether a fault is serious enough immediately order off road or direct to drive a suitable distance to repair.
An exception is failing COF inspection, ist immediately invalid even if time left to run and can only drive direct to place of repair or back to depot to park up.