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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Incorrect actually. Bus Only doesn't specifically exclude motorcycles (to the letter of the law). The emphasis is on "specifically". So, for any vehicle category to be specifically excluded, along with Bus Only, it must also state, No Motorcycles, No Cars etc etc.

    Side note that there was also a tweak to Auckland bylaws that motorcycles in a bus lane could go on the white B. Previously it was only a green B (which I never saw). Holding up a multi-ton bus never seemed like a good idea to me.
    Wellington bus only information.
    Buses only at all times.

    No other vehicles allowed at any time, including motorbikes, taxis and cyclists.

    http://wellington.govt.nz/services/p...ration#busonly
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    Easy simple answer. Bus lanes YES. if it says only or other words about exclusivity then NO NEVER.
    motorways, side streets, open roads, Auckland, Invercargill makes no frighten difference. Look at road code not council.
    If it says bus lane use it. If it says buses only or such don't.
    Jeez there's some confused people out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WristTwister View Post
    ^ This. If a sign says "Only" it means only.


    Bus/Taxi/Motorcycle/Cyclists (not Uber drivers)


    Only Buses.

    Important
    Road authorities (for example, local councils) may have special rules for road users in specific areas. These restrictions should be indicated by signs or markings.

    This



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    What is evident from all of the discussion about bus lanes is:

    * there is no standardisation as to what vehicles can and can not use "bus lane" and "bus only lane" - Auckland Transport [AT] vs Wellington Council interpretation

    * what is stated on AT's website appears to be different to what they are prepared to say over the phone - I'd want what they said over the phone to the OP to be put in writing and their website amended to reflect that

    * that there appears to be a difference of interpretation between bus lane use in Auckland between AT and NZTA who are responsible for motorways - NZTA have said in the past that motorway bus lanes are for buses only and all other vehicles are excluded [I can't find that just at present but someone else might be able to either confirm or deny that.]

    * whether such distinction needs to be made between "bus lane" and "bus only lane"

    Considering the size of the country and the ease of travel throughout the country it would make sense if "bus lane" meant the same whether it was in Auckland or Wellington or Christchurch or anywhere else.

    just an observation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamarillo View Post
    Easy simple answer. Bus lanes YES. if it says only or other words about exclusivity then NO NEVER.
    motorways, side streets, open roads, Auckland, Invercargill makes no frighten difference. Look at road code not council.
    If it says bus lane use it. If it says buses only or such don't.
    Jeez there's some confused people out there.


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    https://www.drivingtests.co.nz/roadc...bus-lane-only/

    This is interesting in road code.

    Note question and answers

    "E. Buses, cyclists, motorcyclists and moped riders can use this lane

    The correct answer is E

    Correct. If there are NO other signs indicating that it's BUS ONLY, then cyclists, motorbikes and moped riders can also use it."


    To me that says bus only on the sign, that excludes all other vehicles.
    If that is driver training then it must be nz wide surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamarillo View Post
    Easy simple answer. Bus lanes YES. if it says only or other words about exclusivity then NO NEVER.
    motorways, side streets, open roads, Auckland, Invercargill makes no frighten difference. Look at road code not council.
    If it says bus lane use it. If it says buses only or such don't.
    Jeez there's some confused people out there.


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    Not surprised it's so freaking confusing when the council contradicts itself... but anyway it does make a difference on where you are. In Auckland, if it says BUS ONLY then motorcycles ARE allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    To me that says bus only on the sign, that excludes all other vehicles.
    If that is driver training then it must be nz wide surely.


    you must be new here...

    legislation - that is: the overarching framework, specifies that unless something is specifically prohibited, it is permitted. (exclusio unius and shit)

    council, being subservient of government and lés legislature, cannot override it ("nothing can be greater than that which creates it" - bible, and shit, also latin and jews: derativa potestas)

    so it doesn't fucking matter what council say, if "the law" says otherwise. what will matter, at the end of the day, is whether the policy enforcement officer you end up having the discussion with has had a) donuts and b) a blowjob this morning.

    ...and if you don't have any fucking donuts in your saddlebags, you can start feeling sorry for yourself
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    'ere we fucking go. Romans, 13 mother-cunting 1 :
    The power which is derived cannot be greater than that from which it is derived
    extend to rant about common cannon and ecclesiastical and jew tyranny and GTFO whitey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post


    you must be new here...

    legislation - that is: the overarching framework, specifies that unless something is specifically prohibited, it is permitted. (exclusio unius and shit)

    council, being subservient of government and lés legislature, cannot override it ("nothing can be greater than that which creates it" - bible, and shit, also latin and jews: derativa potestas)

    so it doesn't fucking matter what council say, if "the law" says otherwise. what will matter, at the end of the day, is whether the policy enforcement officer you end up having the discussion with has had a) donuts and b) a blowjob this morning.

    ...and if you don't have any fucking donuts in your saddlebags, you can start feeling sorry for yourself
    The Latin references make you seem quite clever.

    Deceptive, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    The Latin references make you seem quite clever.

    Deceptive, really.
    uppus fuckus, rastus.

    i've out-jewed cleverer cops than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    uppus fuckus, rastus.

    i've out-jewed cleverer cops than you.
    I us no longer a Copperus.

    I us humanus.

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    actually. i take that back.

    i don't know how clever rastus is. and generally the clever cops are all liek "yeah, nah, fuck this"

    ...it's the dumb ones that i out-jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I us no longer a Copperus.

    I us humanus.
    your welcome.


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