The Death of Castro - Beloved revolutionary or Tyrannical Dictator?

[JimO]

Should I give a shit?

Guess there will be more Hipsters wearing T-shirts with his face on them now.

Should I give a shit?

do you know where i can get a T shirt

[AllanB]

do you know where i can get a T shirt

Jesus - look at them all - it;s a friggen epidemic!

https://www.zazzle.co.nz/castro+mens+tshirts

[oldrider]

If its in War, then I judge it accordingly.

I'm not cool with specifically targetting named non-combatants outside of a war.

That all said - I'd probably still be a bit pissed at the time (should it happen).

Normalcy in abundance - as long as it was the authorities (Clinton etc) carrying out the assassination (act of terrorism) you are OK to go with it? - Yeah right!

[TheDemonLord]

Normalcy in abundance - as long as it was the authorities (Clinton etc) carrying out the assassination (act of terrorism) you are OK to go with it? - Yeah right!

That's a complete misrepresentation of what I said.

Assume for the minute that NZ and Australia are at war - as part of the strategy to win the War, we send over a special forces team to blow up the Australian cabinet.

I'm okay with that - its part of a strategy in a war time situation and since the Govt. is part of the military command structure, they are a valid military target (IMO)

Now - compare this with the NZ army doing the same with no decleration of war - That is as you say an act of terrorism.

[oldrider]

That's a complete misrepresentation of what I said.

Assume for the minute that NZ and Australia are at war - as part of the strategy to win the War, we send over a special forces team to blow up the Australian cabinet.

I'm okay with that - its part of a strategy in a war time situation and since the Govt. is part of the military command structure, they are a valid military target (IMO)

Now - compare this with the NZ army doing the same with no decleration of war - That is as you say an act of terrorism.

Well if you mean the way that Washington continually interferes in other countries politics by destabilising and replacing governments that don't suit them - yes!

The impression gained from your postings is that you support that and them and IMHO they currently are the most active terrorists in the world!

[Swoop]

Cuban missile crisis-The American warhawks wanted war too...

Only a couple.
The "invasion option" was tossed about quite a bit, but sense prevailed. The best path was followed (blockade).

Castro started out as a revolutionary, then sold out to communism. Inviting Soviet forces onto his soil and having no control over them was a mistake.

Local Release Authority on the nukes? Fucking stupidity at its highest.



I guess the best people to ask about Castro's death, would be those who fled their own country.

...we send over a special forces team to blow up the Australian cabinet.

Well... doing that would raise the average IQ of Australia quite a bit.

[SPman]

I think I read somewhere there were approx 638 attempts or plans on Fidel's life, over his lifetime........

Yes, he was a bit tyrannical towards those he ousted - as every thinking revolutionary should be if he doesn't want the establishment in the country to oust him, and he should have eased off once he was established, but, the estimate is about 9,000 killed under his watch - including people killed during the initial revolutionary fighting and in the Bay of Pigs invasion - rather less than in many of those countries under CIA influence who have been busy denouncing him as a tyrant! On an absolutist human rights scale, not good, but...........

How many know that .....

Cuba played a crucial role in sustaining the liberation struggles throughout Southern Africa. If Castro had done nothing else, he would deserve warm remembrance for that. But much less well-known in Europe is Cuba’s extraordinary contribution to healthcare throughout Africa. Ghanaian, Togolese and Beninois villages and hospitals had excellent Cuban doctors, and I know part-Cuban families in each of those countries as a result. I am sure it was widespread across much of Africa, I just highlight that for which I can personally vouch. That a tiny island, itself a victim of colonialism and slavery, should be able to make a contribution to African healthcare that can without a stretch be mentioned in the same sentence as the aid efforts of the major western powers, is an incredible achievement. It was of course the export of Cuba’s tremendous domestic achievement in healthcare and education

For all their hardships...mainly imposed by a vindictive USA and "allies", Cubans are some of the healthiest and longest living people in the world.

Castro went to the US after his successful coup but President Eisenhower refused to see him. So Castro went to see Kruchev. Might have saved the world from going to the brink of nuclear war if Ike had met the man.

I always thought it was ludicrous, the whole situation with the US - like a bully whose pride has been pricked and spends the next 60 yrs on the sidelines throwing stones......and whining!