From bad to worse?

**R650R** · 5th December 2016, 16:57

*** Breaking News *** *** Breaking News *** *** Breaking News *** *** Breaking News *** *** Breaking News ***

From (source redacted)

Winston Peters to return to the National Party according to party insiders. Its unknown the exact details but tis understood the National Party made an unrefuseable offer for the strong leadership qualities of Winston.
NZF souces say the party will continue a sa separate entity but will no doubt support Mr Peters strongly.

**Oakie** · 5th December 2016, 16:58

This thread is going to be EPIC!

Me ... I think he's been a good P.M. Done some good work in amongst some cringe moments but generally moved NZ forward.

Timing is as expected really ... a year out of the next election to give the new leader time to bed in. Funny the number of people on social media who assume he's been caught doing something he shouldn't have.

Questions?

What happens to the Labour / Greens M.O.U. now that Labour must think they have a sniff? Will they kick the Greens out of bed?

Bill English will lead, but who will be his 2 I.C.?

What happens if National win again thus negating the idea that it was all about JKs personality?

**F5 Dave** · 5th December 2016, 17:16

You're all forgetting or probably too scared to utter the Donald Trump in the room- the spectre of Nick Smith

**Daffyd** · 5th December 2016, 17:21

If Crusher Collins gets it I'm moving to the Philippines!

Oh wait...

**husaberg** · 5th December 2016, 18:14

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Sadly, that's not Hayley Holt...

No idea, but the second one says Haley Westerna and thats def Haley Holt.

I just googled Hayley Holt and got this page
http://happybday.to/Hayley-Holt
as Jason and Brian_de marge likely have no idea who she is?
Regardless All of them look like pretty effective MP's.

**Oakie** · 5th December 2016, 18:36

I reckon Amy Adams for deputy although Paula Bennett may have something to say about that. For a male ... Stephen Joyce ... the Minister of Fixing Things.

**Grumph** · 5th December 2016, 18:55

Originally Posted by Oakie

I reckon Amy Adams for deputy although Paula Bennett may have something to say about that. For a male ... Stephen Joyce ... the Minister of Fixing Things.

Amy over Paula every time - Amy's a member of Federated Farmers....

I reckon Joyce is owed so many favours for fixing broken portfolios he'll slime in as caretaker PM.

**george formby** · 5th December 2016, 19:05

I met John Key t'other day. Never been a fan, but I was impressed at his interest and consideration of the place and people he visited. He was smart and very perceptive. Bloody good sport, too. Much fun was had for 30 minutes or so and he seemed to lap it up. Quite hilarious for everybody. I confess to dampening my dislike.
Is it true he donates his PM salary to charity?

After the pics that have been posted I'm standing for Hayley Holt..

**BuzzardNZ** · 5th December 2016, 19:17

Originally Posted by george formby

Is it true he donates his PM salary to charity?

People were talking about this at work today and according to them he did for his first term as PM.

**jasonu** · 5th December 2016, 19:23

Originally Posted by husaberg

as Jason and Brian_de marge likely have no idea who she is?
.

With tits like that it really doesn't matter...

**Akzle** · 5th December 2016, 19:52

you old white cunts carry on like it matters? you cant truly believe that if they (politicos) dropped dead tomorrow, that everything would decay into cannabalism and anarchy, can you?

do you feel like your "vote" has any effect on inivietabiltiy?

do you feel that the main puppet actually has any affect on anything (asides from who moans on internets)?

i mean really. most of you have endured multiple decades of this farce, and you still give it the time of day?

**Paul in NZ** · 6th December 2016, 04:28

Being PM in NZ is pretty polarizing... The number of people with a passionate hatred of the guy is astounding when by all accounts, in person hes a pretty decent chap. Hes resisted the hate politics that seem to be popular right now..

Hes not my natural choice - but to be fair he has provided stability and direction. Hes rised our profile overseas and seems to get on well with other world leaders...

I think hes done the right thing - giving a new guy a chance to get going before an election but we will see. What I would hope is that his opponents dont start throwing in all the hate messages etc. Thats how the trumps of the world get elected..

**James Deuce** · 6th December 2016, 06:25

Originally Posted by Blackbird

I'd actually have more respect for the posters above if rather than just sledging John Key, they'd say that Andrew Little and Labour will do a far better job and nail their colours to the mast. Easy to slag off as we we see in virtually every thread on KB these days.

Andrew Little isn't an electable leader of the Labour Party. The Labour Party has a couple of steps to go before they'll have anything like a majority vote. In the meantime they'll be a coalition partner, at best the leading party in a coalition partnership.

Paula Bennett has been very quiet for a long time. I suspect she is more likely to end up PM than English or Collins, and that this decision was made some time ago.

In terms of nailing my flag to mast, there isn't a mast or a flag that suits. There isn't a party planning for the adoption of a minimum basic income or shift from Primary Produce to "something else" whatever it may be. There's no one opposing the neo-con/neo-liberal adherence to broken capitalist maxims, there's no one planning to improve the bulk of New Zealand's population's living standards.

So I have absolutley no hesitation in saying that it is a good thing that he is gone. The problem is the divisive damage to New Zealand's social fabric is done. There will be a growing pool of have-nots with little access to higher education and housing and a huge bunch of old people moving in with their kids within the next 20 years.

**Blackbird** · 6th December 2016, 06:56

Originally Posted by James Deuce

In terms of nailing my flag to mast, there isn't a mast or a flag that suits. There isn't a party planning for the adoption of a minimum basic income or shift from Primary Produce to "something else" whatever it may be. There's no one opposing the neo-con/neo-liberal adherence to broken capitalist maxims, there's no one planning to improve the bulk of New Zealand's population's living standards.

So I have absolutley no hesitation in saying that it is a good thing that he is gone. The problem is the divisive damage to New Zealand's social fabric is done. There will be a growing pool of have-nots with little access to higher education and housing and a huge bunch of old people moving in with their kids within the next 20 years.

Jim, massive respect for critical thinking without the norm of instantly slagging someone off who holds a different view - bloody excellent!