Feminists going full retard.

[Akzle]

You seem to have missed my point... quantity is not quality. The solution is better parenting, not more time.
I'll take an hour a night of play and learning and some well chosen shared times on the weekend over 16 hours of largely trying to ignore a child any day.

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aaaaaaaaand, your old.

hell even the fucking government has caught up with "a child's sense of time"

[TheDemonLord]

You seem to have missed my point... quantity is not quality. The solution is better parenting, not more time.
I'll take an hour a night of play and learning and some well chosen shared times on the weekend over 16 hours of largely trying to ignore a child any day.

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I agree that Quality is preferable - but tell me - how do you get better at doing something? Is it by doing it regularly?

[Big Dog]

I agree that Quality is preferable - but tell me - how do you get better at doing something? Is it by doing it regularly?

Not necessarily.
Sometimes to get better at something you must first stop doing what you are doing.
Sometimes you need to take time to learn something new.
Plan better.

If I was to try to learn to side kick like Chuck Norris... just standing there doing side kicks may make me better at them or it may make me worse at them. Depending how bad my techniques and understanding are to start with.

Taking a step back, getting some independent advice, trying again slowly and with more focus on good technique and removing bad habits is far mote likely to be successful.

Parenting is the same. Blindly doing whatever comes to mind and hoping for the best might work...
Repeating the same action won't make it better but it might maker it easier to get it wrong.

If you want an expert opinion just keep reading different authors until you find one you agree with.

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[Big Dog]

aaaaaaaaand, your old.

hell even the fucking government has caught up with "a child's sense of time"

Oh so when it suits you the govt is a shining example?

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[bogan]

Which kinda proves my point....



But there is no dedicated to allowance for the Father - does this look like equality?



Okay - in both my current workplace and my previous workplace - the only people that were on less than 40 hour weeks were..... the Ladies! but in seriousness - I think the average male working week is 44 hours, the average female working week is 35.

So the issue is that if you both earn $20/hr - for the Average hours worked, Men are going to earn more - this is cited as 'Sexism' when really it isn't.



Suppose I say that more studies would be nice - does it not suggest that due to affirmative Sexism, there is now a definitive bias against Men?



Patriarchy theory, Rape Culture and the Gender wage gap - I'd say those are the central doctrines of modern Feminism.

Not at all, vocal minorities often create a misrepresentation of the majority.

Equality of outcomes or opportunities? Where do you draw the line on biological need, the father can't breastfeed naturally, should we pay for them to get some sort of implant for better bonding? Of course not, so equality of outcomes is already off the table.

Women as as whole group working less hours reflects nothing about how hard women in the workplace work. That's just shonky stats, like the 77c figure. What are the comparative average hours like for full time employment in the same field of work?

No, it suggests that more studies are required before anything can be concluded definitive.

And I'd say that is complete bullshit, the central doctrine of feminism is equal rights and opportunities for men and women (with the obvious exemption of biological needs, which can be considered to come under the umbrella of rights to an equally healthy life).

[TheDemonLord]

Not at all, vocal minorities often create a misrepresentation of the majority.

Then where is this Majority?

Because the Majority in Academia are batshit crazy, the Majority at protests are batshit crazy, the majority on Feminist websites such as Jezebel and Everydayfeminism are batshit crazy - so I have to ask where are they?

It sounds like you're trying to say that they aren't Scotsmen, even though they come from Scotland....

Equality of outcomes or opportunities? Where do you draw the line on biological need, the father can't breastfeed naturally, should we pay for them to get some sort of implant for better bonding? Of course not, so equality of outcomes is already off the table.

It's equality of Opportunity - to have the same allowance for Paternity leave.

Women as as whole group working less hours reflects nothing about how hard women in the workplace work. That's just shonky stats, like the 77c figure. What are the comparative average hours like for full time employment in the same field of work?

Full time work for Men per working day: 8.9 hours
Full time work for Women per working day: 8.2 hours (so nearly an hour difference per day)

Source

For full time workers, men still worked longer than women, with 8.3 hours compared to 7.7 hours

Different Source

Average full time hours for men - between 39.1-39.4 (take a note of the difference
Average full time hours for Women - between 33.9-34.5 (much larger spread)

Different again source

What more do you need?

No, it suggests that more studies are required before anything can be concluded definitive.

In the absence of an opposing study, it indicates that there is good evidence to there being a hiring Bias.

And I'd say that is complete bullshit, the central doctrine of feminism is equal rights and opportunities for men and women (with the obvious exemption of biological needs, which can be considered to come under the umbrella of rights to an equally healthy life).

WAS.

What you have described is known as 2nd wave Feminism, 3rd wave Feminism (which is the current wave, and the one I have serious issues with) has as a central tenant of Patriarchy Theory (which is a Conspiracy theory), The Wage Gap (also a conspiracy theory) and Rape Culture (see previous)

[Akzle]

Oh so when it suits you the govt is a shining example?

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not at all. More that, even the old white niggery of government has grasped (legislated, even) the concept of time as (believed to be) perceived by children.

"quality over quantity" is an adult rationalisation (as applies to time) to justify your forfeiture of the only thing you'll ever own. cos reasons.

[Akzle]

feminism - /ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/
noun
1. the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of
the sexes.

just for those struggling without shared understanding

[Akzle]

Patriarchy Theory (which is a Conspiracy theory),

not reeeeeally bro. white society has pretty much been by-men for-men. recognising that a woman's place is amongst your other chattel property: at home.
lest you forget, a lot of the horseshit societal structures came from the christian church, and we know how inclusive they are.

and yes it's changing now (so is the recognition of "genders", or lack of) but even that basic tenet of marriage, was to transfer ownership of a woman from father to husband...

and while there have been great changes (they can vote and hold title and stuff)... that's still within the patriarchal framework, much of which is outmoded one way and another, so from that perspective, i'm actually pro-feminism.

but given that all women are bat shit crazy most of the time, and on the fucking moon one week a month, probably not a good idea to actually vest too much in them. (well, that and THE GENDERS AREN'T EQUAL)

[Katman]

not reeeeeally bro.

Everything's a conspiracy theory to TDL.

I blame his autism.

[yokel]

Seen as the female brain sucks at maths and science, as emotion kills logic.
the increase in insane bitches in teaching is affecting supply & demand.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11463757

Add to that the housing crisis,
Can anybody tell me how many houses females build?
You don't hear much about gender equality in relation to the construction industry, except when it comes to CEO and shit, being a builer? Not so much.

[yokel]

just for those struggling without shared understanding

And adults are equal to children right?

[Akzle]

And adults are equal to children right?

no, children are heaps smarter.

[Akzle]

Everything's a conspiracy theory to TDL.

I blame his autism.

i blame his stupid.

[WristTwister]

Seen as the female brain sucks at maths and science, as emotion kills logic.
the increase in insane bitches in teaching is affecting supply & demand.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11463757

The irony with you making that comment and then posting that article is that both the scientists quoted in that item were female (Dr Ngaire Hobden & Dr Megan Lourie) while the male in the item was someone who was unwilling to apply for a middle management position (another area with a staff shortfall).