NOT GOOD, Worst deaths in 19 years

**FJRider** · 9th January 2017, 18:42

Originally Posted by Katman

.....Cassina is absolutely right that pressure to keep up is a major contributor to crashes during group rides.

Anyone who tries to deny it is kidding themselves.

The underlying factor is in those cases is the reluctance of those riders to then simply ... left indicator on and back off on the throttle ... because of the underlying fear of looking like a noob if they do ...

**Murray** · 9th January 2017, 18:52

Originally Posted by cassina

If you dont believe me you will see plenty of guys riding under pressure to keep up any weekend on the Christchurch to Akaroa road. I have seen them myself.

I think you will find these "racers" are a bunch of mates riding together - not an organised group ride

Big difference

**caseye** · 9th January 2017, 19:15

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Stop being so sensible. Go back to the Ol'Azkill we have come to know and love.

Yeah! Wot he, um, ? he said. Te he he

**Akzle** · 9th January 2017, 19:18

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Stop being so sensible. Go back to the Ol'Azkill we have come to know and love.

what the fuck cunt

it was jews.

**Murray** · 9th January 2017, 19:18

Originally Posted by caseye

Yeah! Wot he, um, ? he said. Te he he

C'mon Mark - no thanks

Next thing will be if Cassina says something intelligent you will want him/her to go back to being what he/she was!!

**caseye** · 9th January 2017, 19:31

Originally Posted by Murray

C'mon Mark - no thanks

Next thing will be if Cassina says something intelligent you will want him/her to go back to being what he/she was!!

Sók never going to happen, she's not that smart.

**nzspokes** · 9th January 2017, 19:45

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't give a shit how many people I piss off by saying it but.......

.....Cassina is absolutely right that pressure to keep up is a major contributor to crashes during group rides.

Anyone who tries to deny it is kidding themselves.

Another one that cant keep up.

**Big Dog** · 9th January 2017, 20:00

Originally Posted by Katman

And before anyone starts telling me how many group rides they've been on where no-one has crashed, the answer to that is they were probably group rides conducted in a responsible manner.

It's the group rides where crashes do occur that are quite often the result of people trying to match the 'race pace'.

Exactly, responsible riders and group rides are not mutually exclusive.
Simply stating group rides kill is gross generalisation.

Any pressure to keep up is a function of ego rather than the group.

There have also been group rides I chose not to start our not to finish because of the participants.
Final responsibility rests with the rider keeping their own ego in check.

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**FJRider** · 9th January 2017, 20:32

Originally Posted by cassina

The post was from a truck driver and not a motorcyclist. But if you prefer to value the opinions of motorcyclists as knowing more about trucks than truck drivers well thats your silly fault in my opinion.

If a truck driver decides he/she really needs to stop in a hurry ... the least of his/her worries will be a motorcyclist tailgating the truck. Just look at the truck crashes in the Lewis Pass area over the last few months ...

Tailgate trucks at your peril ...

**Murray** · 9th January 2017, 20:34

Originally Posted by cassina

Pressure to keep up would still exist between mates.

You dickhead thats exactly what I was getting at.

**Scuba_Steve** · 9th January 2017, 20:35

Originally Posted by cassina

The post was from a truck driver and not a motorcyclist. But if you prefer to value the opinions of motorcyclists as knowing more about trucks than truck drivers well thats your silly fault in my opinion.

You're maybee not aware of this, but there's a few of us on here that operate vehicles other than bikes; vehicles such as Trucks... That's right! some of us on here fall under the "truck drivers" catagory too

**FJRider** · 9th January 2017, 20:42

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

You're maybee not aware of this, but there's a few of us on here that operate vehicles other than bikes; vehicles such as Trucks... That's right! some of us on here fall under the "truck drivers" catagory too

Some on here should just fall under a truck ...

**Moise** · 9th January 2017, 21:07

Originally Posted by Akzle

i seee you bought into that whole "speed is dangerous" propaganda.

i disagree.

Not at all. But doing over 140 km/h on many NZ roads is not likely to end well because of traffic, police or road conditions.

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**rastuscat** · 9th January 2017, 21:42

If 6 people go out on a group ride, it's 6 people riding individually together.

I did one such ride today. It was called a Ride Forever Silver course.

Everyone maintained their 2 second spacing, as I set the rules, and the rules got obeyed.

Pay respect forward by leaving the rider ahead of you space to choose whatever line he wants.