Nutty season on the roads

[Akzle]

I guess.

Is that logic Cassina style ?

pretty much

[nzspokes]

You just have to observe the riding to notice a lot of time is spent hugging the centre line and going over it too. Police riders have to take greater risks because of their jobs I guess.

Thats some epic comprehension fail you have there.

[Gremlin]

But my safety tip is if you dont hug the centre line on bends there is no need to move left of centre if someone is coming the other way and if they are coming around the bend fast enough you may not have enough time to move left anyway. Will all bends being different the amount of time you get to get out of the way (if any) mid corner will vary greatly and you will have stuff all time at all if they are over the centre line. Too risky for me sorry but if you think thats safe good luck.

You pay taxes like anyone else, why would you only use a third of the lane available? Take a typical left hander with limited visibility. By positioning yourself on the left hand side you've drastically reduced your forward vision, giving you less time to react for a given speed (and you'll see vehicles later, they'll see you later). The only option there would be to reduce speed to give you the same reaction time (remembering you should be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear, and on a one lane road, half the distance).

Effectively you're in less control of your ride.

[buggerit]

Interesting statistic in the paper today. The tourists most frequently involved in accidents here are Australians. Apparently there are more of them on the road.
Guess we don't notice them 'cause they don't look much different to most of us, nor do they fly Australian flags. Maybe they should?

I don't recall ever driving a Volvo and I haven't driven a Subaru since yesterday. I wouldn't mind driving Guy Martin's Volvo though.
http://www.driving.co.uk/news/guy-ma...ar-in-britain/

Mate living in aussie tells me the driving instructors in WA make the students in manuals slip the car into neutral and use the brakes when stopping for lights etc, apparently down changing and engine braking is multitasking

[5ive]

Mate living in aussie tells me the driving instructors in WA make the students in manuals slip the car into neutral and use the brakes when stopping for lights etc, apparently down changing and engine braking is multitasking

Not surprising, we did the same thing here with indicators at roundabouts.

It was too hard apparently, but making it easier has still not improved correct indicator usage...

[Banditbandit]

That's kinda true, but there is a bigger chance of a rider accident when they're going too fast into a 25/35 corner than a 55/65 corner. Bikes can usually take most corners faster than cars because they're narrower. The rider's skill (or lack of it) can make a difference as well. A bigger threat can be the skill of cagers who go wide on narrow bends.

Not true - car can generally corner faster than bikes - cars have a HUGE amount more rubber 0n then road and therefore more grip ...

The difference si that the average bike rider is a better rider than the average car driver is a driver .. That neds to be true or we all die ..

It's true though, I once saw a facebook post about a rider who went to a riding school, and he said that you should hug the center line on left and right hand corners so that you can see cars coming the other way betterer.

Name the school - so we all know not to go there

[Swoop]

"Cassina logic"

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...ction_in_terms

Nuttier than squirrel shit.

And, if anyone suggests that "epic trolling" is happening... "no".
She's simply dumber than a bag of hammers.

[5ive]

Name the school - so we all know not to go there

Haha dude, I didn't think it was that subtle.

[johcar]

Considering how many corners have these signs there is no way that every one of them has a sufficient crash history to make this necessary. When these signs were initially erected the speed on them was determined by a ball on a curved track in the rear window of a test car.

Most corners can be quite safely taken quite a bit higher that the "recommended" speed. Under good conditions, with even a reasonably maintained vehicle and a semi-competant driver/rider, those signs can be read (roughly) as miles per hour. Only under poor conditions or for a POS vehicle or incompetant rider/driver do they need to be read in kph.

And for the record, it wouldn't worry me in the slightest if all of those signs disappeared overnight. I make my own assessment of every corner every time I go through it anyway.

The "advisory" signs on corners, are in fact guides.

You can generally take them at twice (or more) the posted speed on a bike, and around twice the posted speed in a modern car.

Conditions allowing, of course...

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[Moise]

Well, I met (almost) one of Cassina's LH corner, centre line huggers today. They were on the dotted line at corner entry and wobbled over to the left when they saw me coming. Fortunately I wasn't going fast, otherwise I think they might have fallen off!

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[jasonu]

Well, I met (almost) one of Cassina's LH corner, centre line huggers today. They were on the dotted line at corner entry and wobbled over to the left when they saw me coming. Fortunately I wasn't going fast, otherwise I think they might have fallen off!

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But was anyone being pressured to keep up?

[onearmedbandit]

Maybe from that fright they got its the last time they believe everything they are taught in riding school. If riding schools want to teach centre line hugging it should only be when preparing for an overtake.

Oh so you know the rider and the training they've received...?

[Moise]

If it's not a blind corner and it helps you to see further ahead, that's one thing. But to be out on the centre line when you can barely see the apex is not clever.

This happened on Highway 22 a few km north of Naike. That's the 2nd drama I've had on the same section of road with motorcyclists in the last year.

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[nzspokes]

If it's not a blind corner and it helps you to see further ahead, that's one thing. But to be out on the centre line when you can barely see the apex is not clever.

This happened on Highway 22 a few km north of Naike. That's the 2nd drama I've had on the same section of road with motorcyclists in the last year.

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They would only have a fright if you were either naked or over the center line yourself.

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[Moise]

It's a narrow road at that point, so I was maybe 2 metres from centreline and leaned over when they saw me. It was actually quite funny, wish I had a video of it.

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