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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    The [sic: more you exceed the advised speed] on the sign, the greater the chance you will come to grief otherwise they would either have no signs or put a much higher speed rating on them than they do.
    That's kinda true, but there is a bigger chance of a rider accident when they're going too fast into a 25/35 corner than a 55/65 corner. Bikes can usually take most corners faster than cars because they're narrower. The rider's skill (or lack of it) can make a difference as well. A bigger threat can be the skill of cagers who go wide on narrow bends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Well, we know where Cassina fits.

    There is an exception that springs to mind, the really slow ones indicating 25kph or less do tend to mean what they say.

    I have seen comments on KB by people claiming to do double the posted speed, I don't think I could actually do that, and if I did try I'd be much too busy to look at the bloody speedo. Your suggestion of reading them as mph is conservative and safely achievable by any competent rider. After taking into account the above-noted proviso of course.
    Well I can usually go up state highway 16 to wellsford at 120 around the 55 65 km per hour corners.

    I feel that is a safe speed if it's a good sunny day with good road conditions. There's a 35 corner that I slow down to to around 60 or so. But coming back to Auckland there I'd usually gravel on the road so I slow right down.

    Is this silly speeds. Probably. But me being silly in the bends has gotten me into less trouble than other people's silliness in the city. Far too many people are not terribly aware of what's going on. And far too many people on phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    The greater the speed you get up to above whats on the sign the greater the chance you will come to grief otherwise they would either have no signs or put a much higher speed rating on them than they do.
    Assuming the above is true (big assumption) - the same risk assessment could be applied to life as a whole. Fuck, life is dangerous so why do we bother? Let's all just rid ourselves of it. Afterall, you can't have an accident if you're dead - problem solved!


    You really do have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Even I'm on the verge of throwing my hands in the air and admitting defeat (but not quite yet). That's quite an acheivement. You're the first halfwit on here to get me to that point in the decade that I've been on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    There are strict control procedures laid down to set the "Advised" speed limit on bends. Worst case scenarios are nothing to do with it.
    The online road code defines "Curve Warning Signs" as showing a "safe and comfortable speed to drive at around the curve". For this to be true for every vehicle/driver combination that takes a given bend then this speed by definition must be "safe and comfortable" for the worst vehicle/driver/conditions combination that will ever arise. If they are set contrary to that then they are no more useful than tits on a bull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    And there it is.....
    it's hard to play any other tune when your piano only has two strings...


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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    . You're the first halfwit on here to get me to that point in the decade that I've been on this site.
    you credit him with a whole half?


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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    The online road code defines "Curve Warning Signs" as showing a "safe and comfortable speed to drive at around the curve". For this to be true for every vehicle/driver combination that takes a given bend then this speed by definition must be "safe and comfortable" for the worst vehicle/driver/conditions combination that will ever arise. If they are set contrary to that then they are no more useful than tits on a bull.
    Is that your best guess too ... ?????

    Interesting reading here ... you might learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WristTwister View Post
    That's kinda true, but there is a bigger chance of a rider accident when they're going too fast into a 25/35 corner than a 55/65 corner. Bikes can usually take most corners faster than cars because they're narrower. The rider's skill (or lack of it) can make a difference as well. A bigger threat can be the skill of cagers who go wide on narrow bends.
    So by sticking to the recommended speed for a bend the chance of avoiding a cager over the centre line is greater. Those that like taking the bends faster perhaps dont factor in that scenario though or they rely on "centre line hugging" to give them "time" to get out of the way of a car over the centre line as they will be able to see it before the car sees them as taught in riding schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    as taught in riding schools.
    and how the fuck would you know this having never ever been to one? your WOF guy tell ya?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Is that your best guess too ... ?????
    Not really a guess, just applied logic. Irrespective of how the speed was arrived at or what TPTB intend, if one speed is said to be "safe and comfortable" for all vehicle/driver combinations then surely it must be "safe and comfortable" for the worst vehicle/driver combination? Or is the road code vastly over simplifying the situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Interesting reading here ... you might learn something.
    Thanks. I'll have a read when I get the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    and how the fuck would you know this having never ever been to one? your WOF guy tell ya?
    It's true though, I once saw a facebook post about a rider who went to a riding school, and he said that you should hug the center line on left and right hand corners so that you can see cars coming the other way betterer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Assuming the above is true (big assumption) - the same risk assessment could be applied to life as a whole. Fuck, life is dangerous so why do we bother? Let's all just rid ourselves of it. Afterall, you can't have an accident if you're dead - problem solved!


    You really do have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Even I'm on the verge of throwing my hands in the air and admitting defeat (but not quite yet). That's quite an acheivement. You're the first halfwit on here to get me to that point in the decade that I've been on this site.
    I could call you a halfwit too for not taking notice of my advise. The question I have for you is why do you waste your time responding to my posts if you dont like them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5ive View Post
    It's true though, I once saw a facebook post about a rider who went to a riding school, and he said that you should hug the center line on left and right hand corners so that you can see cars coming the other way betterer.
    what the fuck would you know? are you a wof guy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I could call you a halfwit too for not taking notice of my advise. The question I have for you is why do you waste your time responding to my posts if you dont like them?
    *advice

    I don't think anyone really hates your posts (and Katman loves them, he can piggyback off them for attention), they just don't agree with the content, which is usually wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    what the fuck would you know? are you a wof guy?
    No, I know a wof guy though, he tells me everything I need to know so I don't have to think.

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