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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    I pirate everything I watch. Because it's free and easy, really no other reason than that.

    Step 1: Build a list of all the TV shows you want on showrss.info.

    Step 2: Plus the generated RSS feed into your torrent software of choice.

    Step 3: Enjoy watching your TV shows that are automatically downloaded at the moment of release.
    That says a lot about you dunnit. Thief.

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    Loyalty..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    You think a slightly higher price here with a population of ~4 million would have an effect on prices in a market of ~322 million?
    Well yes, it does. So does the massively higher prices HP, Apple, Microsoft et al charge anywhere outside the US subsidise their domestic market.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If you put artificial barriers in place to try and increase your profit margin, you can't complain when people subvert those artificial barriers.
    Correct. If the market wasn't artificially distorted there'd be competing suppliers regulating the price.

    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Bet your attitude would be different if some Chinese outfit copied some engineering design of yours and started mass producing it and taking away work and revenue from you?
    The only time that happened it was an American company. And by the time they had their copy on the market it my later design made it redundant.

    Patents? Who gives a fuck?

    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Yeah we've all copied films at times be it VHS DVD or online but don't ever try and justify it as being right in any way, unless its porn as then your only short changing the pimp, the sheilas already gotten what shes going to get out of the deal lol....
    Actually I don't believe I have. Yet.

    It's on the agenda though, since I have a brand new head unit in the van which won't play with any media I own, and since apparently what I originally paid for when I purchased Ogden's Nut Gone Flake on vinyl was the rights to use the artists property...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Well yes, it does. So does the massively higher prices HP, Apple, Microsoft et al charge anywhere outside the US subsidise the domestic market.
    Conversely, the likes of Microsoft sell software very cheaply in say, India, because of the massive piracy issues. Sell it so cheap people consider buying it legally. So... they know exactly how things work and simply do whatever suits them best, then cry when it doesn't go their way. Given the eye watering prices (we sell Microsoft licences to our clients) I really don't feel sorry for them (especially when each version gets worse).

    Copyright, relatively easy link to follow: https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/copyright-law
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Bet your attitude would be different if some Chinese outfit copied some engineering design of yours and started mass producing it and taking away work and revenue from you?
    Not how the entertainment industry model works. The product is completely paid for and profitable when it is released. Except for Cinema release-only movies, which is a rapidly disappearing model. Most distributors with a brain are going Cinema + VOD at the same time. What we're paying for as end users is distribution rights, and as we all know with Sky, THAT is where the real theft happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    That says a lot about you dunnit. Thief.
    If there was a subscription service that was as easy as the above, people would pay for it.

    I currently have Netflix - but I still torrent the occasional show because it isn't available in Netflix, or at least it's not available in NZ (and my VPN is playing up), or it's an exclusive title licenced to a rival company.

    All of which is nice, but I don't care - I want a single portal, where I can consume all the content I want to consume - I'm happy to pay a reasonable fee for such a service.

    This is where the artificial barriers come into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Conversely, the likes of Microsoft sell software very cheaply in say, India, because of the massive piracy issues. Sell it so cheap people consider buying it legally. So... they know exactly how things work and simply do whatever suits them best, then cry when it doesn't go their way. Given the eye watering prices (we sell Microsoft licences to our clients) I really don't feel sorry for them (especially when each version gets worse).

    Copyright, relatively easy link to follow: https://www.consumer.org.nz/articles/copyright-law
    A friend of mine who is in IT spoke to a Microsoft rep a number of years ago about people using stolen versions of their OS, his response was "we don't care about the end user stealing our product, we'd rather them stealing and using ours rather than using any other OS'. However he made it clear they actively pursue the outfits selling large quantities of their property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    A friend of mine who is in IT spoke to a Microsoft rep a number of years ago about people using stolen versions of their OS, his response was "we don't care about the end user stealing our product, we'd rather them stealing and using ours rather than using any other OS'.
    Which is presumably why every iteration of their OS includes compatibility issues with competing app's. It's that anti-competitive behaviour that irks, and it's the usual validation for bypassing their market restrictions.

    Autodesk maintained a monopoly in draughting app's for a couple of decades by continually releasing new versions that were not only incompatible with competing app's file protocols but weren't reverse compatible with their own products. The competition got gradually better and ACad got progressively mired in more and more dead-end market driven changes. You could almost see the inevitable result coming: their market share went from 60% and slowly falling to complete collapse almost overnight. Now they're almost irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Autodesk maintained a monopoly in draughting app's for a couple of decades by continually releasing new versions that were not only compatible with competing app's file protocols but weren't reverse compatible with their own products. The competition got gradually better and ACad got progressively mired in more and more dead-end market driven changes. You could almost see the inevitable result coming: their market share went from 60% and slowly falling to complete collapse almost overnight. Now they're almost irrelevant.
    Autocad has also moved to subscription-based revenue. Bastards. It's still used plenty in some sectors of industry... gotta work through that with a client...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Which is presumably why every iteration of their OS includes compatibility issues .
    no that's just cos they're shit at code.

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    Fuck, you lot waste time on watching movies AND waste even more time on KB??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Autocad has also moved to subscription-based revenue. Bastards. It's still used plenty in some sectors of industry... gotta work through that with a client...
    If any of my clients want dwgs there's at least three apps in front of me that can export them in any flavour they want. In fact at one time a significant part of my income was converting formats so my clients could read their customer's Pro-E files, (eg) in Solidworks, (eg).

    That's no longer the case, the few industries still using Acad to any great extent have been a minority for years now, all of those compatibility issues built into their system are now far more of a problem for them than almost any comparable app you can buy.

    Which, given the grief and extra work Autodesk has caused me over the years pleases me no end
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