Looking for other riders

[Jayjayeh]

Lmao I am fucking dying here after reading some of the posts lol had no intension of starting a troll thread..just looking for people who wna rev sme engines, ride around, eat sme junk n fucking chill lol

[trufflebutter]

Cassina's other very "informative" posts on motorcycling include: cornering with your foot down, the track is more dangerous than the road etc.

I have seen that very thing happen with a new rider, it was his first ride with a group and he attempted to pace with some of the more experienced riders and bin his bike by running wide on a right hand bend and thankfully ending up in a metal dump, the drop just a few meters away was quite a long way down. He was never seen again on this site, it must have frightened the shit out of him.

[Katman]

I have seen that very thing happen with a new rider, it was his first ride with a group and he attempted to pace with some of the more experienced riders and bin his bike by running wide on a right hand bend and thankfully ending up in a metal dump, the drop just a few meters away was quite a long way down. He was never seen again on this site, it must have frightened the shit out of him.

Are you suggesting he might have felt pressured to keep up with the others?

[Zedder]

I have seen that very thing happen with a new rider, it was his first ride with a group and he attempted to pace with some of the more experienced riders and bin his bike by running wide on a right hand bend and thankfully ending up in a metal dump, the drop just a few meters away was quite a long way down. He was never seen again on this site, it must have frightened the shit out of him.

That speaks volumes about the lack of group leadership and planning more than anything else.

[trufflebutter]

Lmao I am fucking dying here after reading some of the posts lol had no intension of starting a troll thread..just looking for people who wna rev sme engines, ride around, eat sme junk n fucking chill lol

Stick to that plan but take a dictionary just in case no body turns up. That slow ride thread posted earlier would be ideal.

Are you suggesting he might have felt pressured to keep up with the others?

Cassina does have point on that point. It happens, not always but it happens.

That speaks volumes about the lack of group leadership and planning more than anything else.

It speak volumes of what can go on inside in the helmet of a new rider's first group ride. Sometimes it can be all to much to take in and that weird notion of ''I'll just follow them and learn'' is mistakenly brought into the equation, the results may vary.

[Katman]

Cassina does have point on that point. It happens, not always but it happens.

Exactly. So while she does go on about it rather a lot she also has a perfectly valid point.

(And I'd go so far as to say it happens reasonably often).

[Zedder]

It speak volumes of what can go on inside in the helmet of a new rider's first group ride. Sometimes it can be all to much to take in and that weird notion of ''I'll just follow them and learn'' is mistakenly brought into the equation, the results may vary.

Please list the "all too much to take in" examples and how the "I'll just follow them and learn" notion could come about.

[Katman]

It speak volumes of what can go on inside in the helmet of a new rider's first group ride. Sometimes it can be all to much to take in and that weird notion of ''I'll just follow them and learn'' is mistakenly brought into the equation, the results may vary.

It's not only new riders either.

Even experienced riders will often find themselves in the mindset of "I mustn't let him get away from me or I'll look like I'm not as good a rider as him".

I call that pressure to keep up.

[trufflebutter]

Please list the "all too much to take in" examples and how the "I'll just follow them and learn" notion could come about.

Just for you.
On leadership: Laying out the ride rules and expectations (if lengthy) can be ‘’All too much to take in’’ for a first time/new rider. Keep the planning and most importantly, ride numbers to a minimum.

The ride I spoke of earlier had around 50 bikes on the ride. That in itself can be overwhelming for a first time/new rider. It has been mentally documented by me and others in the past on rides of this size that, those who have not been on such a ride can feel like they have to ‘perform’ while in the company of more experienced riders. One returning rider some years ago lost his life on the Coromandel because of that very reason. I heard it first hand from someone at the scene.

Don't fool yourself, it happens.

[trufflebutter]

It's not only new riders either.

Even experienced riders will often find themselves in the mindset of "I mustn't let him get away from me or I'll look like I'm not as good a rider as him".

I call that pressure to keep up.

Yes, I saw a nice new Speed Triple become very second hand that way. A rider in this position will often (if not always) say ''I don't what happened there'' whereas others on the ride know exactly what happened there. Human nature I guess.

[Zedder]

Just for you.
On leadership: Laying out the ride rules and expectations (if lengthy) can be ‘’All too much to take in’’ for a first time/new rider. Keep the planning and most importantly, ride numbers to a minimum.

The ride I spoke of earlier had around 50 bikes on the ride. That in itself can be overwhelming for a first time/new rider. It has been mentally documented by me and other in the past on rides of this size that, those who have not been on such a ride feel like they have to ‘perform’ while in the company of more experienced riders. One returning rider some years ago lost his life on the Coromandel because of that very reason. I heard it first hand from someone at the scene.

Don't fool yourself, it happens.

So like I wrote earlier, it's about the lack of leadership and planning more than anything and particularly in that case.

[george formby]

I have a sense of de ja vu, example #2, no offense OP.

[Jin]

For op you should do the acc funded pro rider courses good value for money

[trufflebutter]

So like I wrote earlier, it's about the lack of leadership and planning more than anything and particularly in that case.

For anyone ''who have not been on such a ride, feel like they have to ‘perform’ while in the company of more experienced riders'' I would have said that's an individual decision. I guess we will stay divided on this point.
I have added the word 'can' in that post to reflect a more accurate viewpoint.

That is it from me on the subject.

[Akzle]

Hey, Akzle, play nicely with the new kids...


Or you'll do rubbish duty for a week...

hey man i've offered to do rubbish duty round here but the mawds are too scared to see me with a hammer.





...and there wouldn't be much left