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    Cheeky speeding motorcyclist in Queenstown?


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    police, protecting you from yourself and generating revenue along the way

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    That is a fantastic photo, to be fair. I think police would have an extremely hard time getting a conviction based on a single static photograph.

    edit: FFS, the article discusses a photograph in a social media post, but doesn't show that photo and instead has a very appealing stock photo. Nice work, NZ press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    That is a fantastic photo, to be fair. I think police would have an extremely hard time getting a conviction based on a single static photograph.

    edit: FFS, the article discusses a photograph in a social media post, but doesn't show that photo and instead has a very appealing stock photo. Nice work, NZ press.
    Yeah .. I was thinking that mist be a pretty hot harley diddleson to reach 239 klicks - unless it was off a cliff.
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    On a tangent.

    I wonder if the relocation of the museum to Invercargill, and the increase in numbers riding for the museum and the Burt, have led to the increase in rider deaths.

    ''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".

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    i'd think it'd be from increase in unlicensed drivers from foreign lands who are used to LHD cars and roads that are made of concrete littering the roads with their presence, then motorcyclist bodies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubbo View Post
    i'd think it'd be from increase in unlicensed drivers from foreign lands who are used to LHD cars and roads that are made of concrete littering the roads with their presence, then motorcyclist bodies
    Fair assumption. It'll be interesting to see the breakdown from CAS of the causative factors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    ''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".
    and i can guarantee that binning it was a factor in 100% of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post

    ''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".
    Tragically the NZ Police don't appear to have the expertise or the nouse to examine what other factors might have been involved. With the exception of course, of alcohol, which they would normally have mentioned already.

    In Britain speed ranks seventh as a cause of accidents. Britain probably isn't *that* different to here. It is therefore fair to assume that the police here rank speed first because they are blissfully ignorant of the six more common causes?

    Incidentally it's felt that the seventh ranking is higher than it should be because many accidents are attended by staff who are not specialist traffic staff and they incorrectly assess the cause as speed. Which sounds sadly familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I wonder if the relocation of the museum to Invercargill, and the increase in numbers riding for the museum and the Burt, have led to the increase in rider deaths.

    ''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".
    I wondered about that quote when I read it.

    As we all know, speed was a factor in every fatal crash last year. Only one crash actually appears to have involved excess speed which is what could be seen as being implied by that quote. That particular crash has been discussed on KB already and involved an alcohol affected rider on a motocross bike on the road at night with no lights or helmet. I don't believe we should all be lumped together because of that one. The fact that that one is even counted as a motorbike fatality and will influence TPTB irks me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubbo View Post
    i'd think it'd be from increase in unlicensed drivers from foreign lands who are used to LHD cars and roads that are made of concrete littering the roads with their presence, then motorcyclist bodies
    Shame I have to work this afternoon so I cannot dispel that particular bandwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    In Britain speed ranks seventh as a cause of accidents. Britain probably isn't *that* different to here. It is therefore fair to assume thet the police here rank speed first because they are blissfully ignorant of the six more common causes?

    Incidentally it's felt that the seventh ranking is higher than it should be because many accidents are attended by staff who are not specialist traffic staff and they incorrectly assess the cause as speed. Which sounds sadly familiar.

    And the speed limits on their motorways and dual carriageways are higher than here for a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubbo View Post
    i'd think it'd be from increase in unlicensed drivers from foreign lands who are used to LHD cars and roads that are made of concrete littering the roads with their presence, then motorcyclist bodies

    Overseas driver crashes, page 4 has a good summary: http://www.transport.govt.nz/assets/...15-15Jun15.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    On a tangent.

    I wonder if the relocation of the museum to Invercargill, and the increase in numbers riding for the museum and the Burt, have led to the increase in rider deaths.

    ''In 2016, 25% of fatal crashes in the Southern district involved motorcyclists and speed was a factor in many of these".
    museum only opened a month before the end of 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    And the speed limits on their motorways and dual carriageways are higher than here for a start.
    By all of 10 mph [ approx 18km/h]...

    plus they are often have a lowered speed limit due to traffic or other conditions.

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