NZSBK 2017 Hampton Downs

[Doppleganger]

The rule book is full of rules that dont work alongside each other and it needs to be thinned out .

And are you volunteering to complete this job on behalf of the road racing community? If not, why not?[/QUOTE]

I dont think it should be one person that does this.
It should be a group of people consisting of experienced officials (and by that I don't mean the old sages that have been there for donkeys), current experienced racers and a legal savvy person.

The wheel doesn't need to be invented here. there are rules out there in other countries that work very well, the flag to flag in motogp, the crash rule in BSB to name but a few

[MarkW]

And are you volunteering to complete this job on behalf of the road racing community? If not, why not?

I dont think it should be one person that does this.
It should be a group of people consisting of experienced officials (and by that I don't mean the old sages that have been there for donkeys), current experienced racers and a legal savvy person.

The wheel doesn't need to be invented here. there are rules out there in other countries that work very well, the flag to flag in motogp, the crash rule in BSB to name but a few[/QUOTE]

Same response - are you volunteering to lead this group to complete this job on behalf of the road racing community? If not, why not?

[Drew]

Just think about it rather than do a runner.

How many riders crash as a result of another riders actions? A fair amount I'd suggest, they don't go running off to the steward and ask to be given points. If they have an issue with the offending rider they appeal the result and if substantiated maybe that offending rider looses out too.

The rue book is full of rule that dont work alongside each other and it needs to be thinned out .

No they don't, that's because the rules are the fairest they can be, the way they are.

It's the same as this the world over. It is the same as an FIM rule. So unless you wanna bitch about it in MotoGP and superbikes, shut your fucken hole.

[Kickaha]

from memory there's only provision for one restart.

I thought the 600s had two restarts at Ruapuna last year?

Good job they didn't anyway, meant we got away from the track a lot earlier for the trip home

[Grumph]

I thought the 600s had two restarts at Ruapuna last year?

Good job they didn't anyway, meant we got away from the track a lot earlier for the trip home

I think if it's red flagged on the first lap it's not actually a restart - it's a rerun.

[jellywrestler]

I think if it's red flagged on the first lap it's not actually a restart - it's a rerun.

race must have completed two laps according to the rule book

[Drew]

race must have completed two laps according to the rule book

'More than two laps' is the wording. So whole field must complete three laps.

[Doppleganger]

'More than two laps' is the wording. So whole field must complete three laps.

Doesn't say 'whole field' has to have completed three laps, as soon as you've 'started' your third lap you have completed 2 laps

[Drew]

Doesn't say 'whole field' has to have completed three laps, as soon as you've 'started' your third lap you have completed 2 laps

It says 'more than two kaps'. So three must be done.

It doesn't clearly state the whole field anY more for some reason. Can't see why that is taken out.

[sidecar bob]

It says 'more than two kaps'. So three must be done.

It doesn't clearly state the whole field anY more for some reason. Can't see why that is taken out.

A race finish is dictated by how many laps the leader has done, so if for example in a 15 lap race, the leader manages to put a lap on every rider before the last lap, then everyone else gets the chequered flag at 14 laps.
The new thinking there seems to fit with more that scenario, which is far more realistic.

[Drew]

A race finish is dictated by how many laps the leader has done, so if for example in a 15 lap race, the leader manages to put a lap on every rider before the last lap, then everyone else gets the chequered flag at 14 laps.
The new thinking there seems to fit with more that scenario, which is far more realistic.

That's different. A rider can't be declared a lap down when they are on the same lap as the leader. Hence the whole field thing. Someone already a lap down would be a pain, but doesn't really change anything.

[jellywrestler]

Doesn't say 'whole field' has to have completed three laps, as soon as you've 'started' your third lap you have completed 2 laps

so if that's your logic the once the lead bike has crossed the finish then the race is over, no-one else matters...

[husaberg]

It says 'more than two kaps'. So three must be done.

It doesn't clearly state the whole field anY more for some reason. Can't see why that is taken out.

2.1 2.3 or 2 1/2 is also more than one.

[Drew]

2.1 2.3 or 2 1/2 is also more than one.

Well spotted. But since laps are only counted in whole numbers, completely irrelevant.

[husaberg]

Well spotted. But since laps are only counted in whole numbers, completely irrelevant.

As long as its more than two complete laps thats all that relevent IMO.
That said some of the MNZ rules are highly ambiguous.
You could drive a bus through F4 and F5.