2017 NZSBK Superbike Championship - on hold

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm not calling people names.(snip)

This rule is picked at by dicks all the time. Usually noobs to racing that think they know better than everyone. Marcus made a whole song and dance about it, and we all know how big a fuckwit that cock is.

I was amused to read that, then your signature "Polemic, look it up"

[pritch]

Well I've said before on this thread that they're incapable of putting out the same rulebook 2 years running....

It needs to be proofread against one pre website and all the remit revisions entered - then password protected against alteration by unauthorised people.

Would not simply publishing it as a PDF sort that?

I feel sorry for all of the riders involved in this farce but MNZ does not come out of this smelling of roses. All riders should know the rules, that can win races and did on one occasion for Sterling Moss. Yeah I'm that old. He was shown a black flag but no number, so he continued circulating despite increasingly agitated flag waving.

Take the protest fee to every race - in cash. Once as Match Director in a different sport I had a competitor waving his cheque book at me. Yeah right!

If the MNZ people that fucked this up are still in office next year, consider that your fault.

[jellywrestler]

In fact the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee openly stated he had not even read my submission as he couldn't open the PDF file.

Would not simply publishing it as a PDF sort that?

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probably not that simple....

[Grumph]

probably not that simple....

I note that MNZ officials appear to be supplied with paper copies - at least I was able to use an official one last weekend at levels to confirm a rule hadn't changed...But you wouldn't have known that judging by the bike I was querying.
The old system of receiving a rulebook with your licence was very good - and more important, the competitor then had no excuses....

[Drew]

I note that MNZ officials appear to be supplied with paper copies - at least I was able to use an official one last weekend at levels to confirm a rule hadn't changed...But you wouldn't have known that judging by the bike I was querying.
The old system of receiving a rulebook with your licence was very good - and more important, the competitor then had no excuses....

You can still get a copy of the rules with your licence. Costs ten bucks I think.

[Grumph]

You can still get a copy of the rules with your licence. Costs ten bucks I think.

Given the licence cost, it should come free. It used to.

At least two of the other competitive activities I do have a section on the entry forms asking you to confirm that you have a copy of the rules - and a signature verifying that you have read them...

[HenryDorsetCase]

probably not that simple....

I've been thinking about this from a quasi-judicial perspective having read some of this thread.

If the only ground for an appeal is as a result of action taken on the day (i.e. a protest is filed within the alotted time limit) but briefs of evidence and submissions would be considered, clearly.

But if the very notion of the appeal fails at the first hurdle (an appeal must be lodged within X timeframe, by Y person who meets Z criteria - for example it must be lodged within 24 hours (say) by a competitor in the race under scrutiny) then it is clear that the judiciary/steward/insert title here not only can not, but pretty much must not read any of that stuff. The judgment is as simple as "Because the appeal was not filed within the time limit stipulated in Rule Blah, the appeal cannot be heard and is hereby dismissed".

I'd be interested in reading the decision if someone has it.

[husaberg]

I've been thinking about this from a quasi-judicial perspective having read some of this thread.

If the only ground for an appeal is as a result of action taken on the day (i.e. a protest is filed within the alotted time limit) but briefs of evidence and submissions would be considered, clearly.

But if the very notion of the appeal fails at the first hurdle (an appeal must be lodged within X timeframe, by Y person who meets Z criteria - for example it must be lodged within 24 hours (say) by a competitor in the race under scrutiny) then it is clear that the judiciary/steward/insert title here not only can not, but pretty much must not read any of that stuff. The judgment is as simple as "Because the appeal was not filed within the time limit stipulated in Rule Blah, the appeal cannot be heard and is hereby dismissed".

I'd be interested in reading the decision if someone has it.

It will be on the MNZ website or it bloody should.

It is not. oh well
http://www.mnz.co.nz/news/news-detai...ny-rees-appeal
http://www.mnz.co.nz/news/news-detai...ll-rees-appeal
http://www.mnz.co.nz/docs/default-so...g.pdf?sfvrsn=0

[Drew]

I've been thinking about this from a quasi-judicial perspective having read some of this thread.

If the only ground for an appeal is as a result of action taken on the day (i.e. a protest is filed within the alotted time limit) but briefs of evidence and submissions would be considered, clearly.

But if the very notion of the appeal fails at the first hurdle (an appeal must be lodged within X timeframe, by Y person who meets Z criteria - for example it must be lodged within 24 hours (say) by a competitor in the race under scrutiny) then it is clear that the judiciary/steward/insert title here not only can not, but pretty much must not read any of that stuff. The judgment is as simple as "Because the appeal was not filed within the time limit stipulated in Rule Blah, the appeal cannot be heard and is hereby dismissed".

I'd be interested in reading the decision if someone has it.

That's actually another problem. There was never a protest from Hampton downs.

[sidecar bob]

I doubt either guy will appeal the decision from this hearing.

I find this post comforting.

[merv]

I find this post comforting.

Now your comfort has gone again Bob and Drew failed us on this one.

Time Sloan just let it go I reckon as this is just plain ridiculous to keep on doing this. How to make friends and influence people - not.

https://www.mnz.co.nz/news/news-deta...iciary-hearing

[Drew]

Now your comfort has gone again Bob and Drew failed us on this one.

Time Sloan just let it go I reckon as this is just plain ridiculous to keep on doing this. How to make friends and influence people - not.

https://www.mnz.co.nz/news/news-deta...iciary-hearing

You should realise that it's the complete fuck up by MNZ that is his issue.
Not the result.

But yes, I was wrong.

On the winning friends remark. The fuck would you know ya dumb cunt? Sloan has big dollar sponsors. His job is to get results for them.

Officials have disliked him since the start of his road racing. Mostly because he's one of very few who point out when they're fucking it up.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now your comfort has gone again Bob and Drew failed us on this one.

Time Sloan just let it go I reckon as this is just plain ridiculous to keep on doing this. How to make friends and influence people - not.

https://www.mnz.co.nz/news/news-deta...iciary-hearing

How.

Fucking.

Gay.

[Kickaha]

Officials have disliked him since the start of his road racing. Mostly because he's one of very few who point out when they're fucking it up.

Are you saying that has influenced the decision making?

[Grumph]

Sloan has big dollar sponsors. His job is to get results for them.

Or the money stops ? Fairly obvious reason for carrying on with the appeals.....