2017 NZSBK Superbike Championship - on hold

[eldog]

what are you talking about, there's an ad for the very same meeting on the front page of this very same forum, albeit for the 2015 round.
to be fair, advertising is so bloody hard these days as it's so diluted, shame they can't have a billboard for what's on at HD on the road, would be safer to do that than have people trying to gawk and find out when driving past it

Exactly. out of date info.
Agreed advertising is difficult.
Need to build personalities /something for people to root for.

A billboard is a start but too remote for aucklanders. Maybe not so for Hamiltonians

Went to wanganui street race and the jet boat next day that made for a good experience.

Even club days or lower levels would be interesting if there was some sort of way of identifying individuals/teams rather than a whole group of riders wearing black leather.

The sidecars are good like that.

Hampton and pukekohe should really rock. But they don't.

I don't have an answer

Philip island was supposed to awesome this year.

[jellywrestler]

Exactly. out of date info.
Agreed advertising is difficult.
Need to build personalities /something for people to root for.

A billboard is a start but too remote for aucklanders. Maybe not so for Hamiltonians

Went to wanganui street race and the jet boat next day that made for a good experience.

Even club days or lower levels would be interesting if there was some sort of way of identifying individuals/teams rather than a whole group of riders wearing black leather.

The sidecars are good like that.

Hampton and pukekohe should really rock. But they don't.

I don't have an answer

Philip island was supposed to awesome this year.

in aussie the local scene including the nationals really struggles for spectators as they have a GP and World superbikes available so people flock to them and don't bother with their own scene, a shame cause it's great racing

[jellywrestler]

interesting new devlopment, you have to try new stuff, and making hampton downs pay for itself is not easy,

wonder how it works and if these riders will need to have a race licence (not a championship one) to practice under a MNZ permit,

they are running on the full international track which is strictly limited in availability as it's reserved for showcase events, 59 marshalls required and the hd track day people are only allowed to one international track event a year, but as i said why not have them friday saturday and leave sunday to do racing and longer nztt races. just my opinion, three of those sessions are at the end of the day too,

[Grumph]

Suppose the track day thing is a good way to get riders to come to the event.

Think of them as spectators paying a premium price.....

[Drew]

Think of them as spectators paying a premium price.....

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[Berries]

Exactly. out of date info.
Agreed advertising is difficult.
Need to build personalities /something for people to root for. .

Characters. That is what you need and this thread is full of them. But only if you are in the know. Bike racing is great entertainment but the NZ public does not know that. Rugby rugby rugby toilet sex rugby. It just needs one really good PR person to push a few of the characters to start the snowball affect.

And get an annual winner takes all race in Invers. Love it or hate it and the distance involved, it is the home to the relocated motorbike museum and the whole Burt Munro thing lifts it beyond the realm of motorcyclists to the general public. Get them in to it and you are halfway there.

[Berries]

repeat post

[jellywrestler]

Characters. That is what you need and this thread is full of them. But only if you are in the know. Bike racing is great entertainment but the NZ public does not know that. Rugby rugby rugby toilet sex rugby. It just needs one really good PR person to push a few of the characters to start the snowball affect.

And get an annual winner takes all race in Invers. Love it or hate it and the distance involved, it is the home to the relocated motorbike museum and the whole Burt Munro thing lifts it beyond the realm of motorcyclists to the general public. Get them in to it and you are halfway there.

last year Bruce Anstey got a queens honour and came back to his hometoen in wellington to recieve it, a matter of weeks later he won an isle of man tt on an electric bike, not even a mention in the local papers, despite me keeping them supplied with all sorts of info to support a good story, '
not even the fact he was riding the 'new' technology got into their heads.

several years ago i think bruce won three tt's in a week, all we had here was greg murphy getting a back operation.

even when we had the world superbikes final here all we could get was a half hour program a week later sadly

[roogazza]

Characters. That is what you need and this thread is full of them. But only if you are in the know. Bike racing is great entertainment but the NZ public does not know that. Rugby rugby rugby toilet sex rugby. It just needs one really good PR person to push a few of the characters to start the snowball affect.

It's always been that way Berries,even in the 'Boom' years it was always a case of how do we get more people to come. We had plenty of Stars and Heros to look up to,it was a wonderful time/era.
My parents ,who couldn't be further from liking bikes,used to listen to the radio for my results.(whether it be a splatter or a win !).
We had live Wanganui on TV Boxing day,so if you weren't there you could avoid the mother in law for the day.
Bit sad these days,what 10 Superbikes ? and then squabbles over who won for a year does nothing for promoting road racing.
Then the latest, trackday/title races in one day at HD and that after reducing the Title Races to just 4 Meetings is it, from last year? (I think we had at least 6 ???).
You can rest in the knowledge that Rugby is struggling compared to the past as well. Maybe its just that the world has changed or a generation that wants something different.
But hey, we can live on our memories huh ?

[jellywrestler]

You can rest in the knowledge that Rugby is struggling compared to the past as well. Maybe its just that the world has changed or a generation that wants something different.
But hey, we can live on our memories huh ?

the whole world is moving away from competitive sports, focus is going on personal bests etc, track days mean people can have six or seven shots in the day, if they want to go home no-one notices, they pack up and go.
our superbike filed per capita is one of the highest in the world, there was a weekend in september when we had 13 road racers racing somewhere in the world, so there's till plenty going on.
having just been through some of the old wanganui programmes recently there were times when some of the feilds were 50 to 75% bigger than the 'golden years' of the malboro series, does this make that series a failure due to lack of numbers?

[sidecar bob]

Bit sad these days,what 10 Superbikes ? and then squabbles over who won for a year does nothing for promoting road racing.

They had nowhere near ten super bikes. it was a mixed grid with superstock, so looked far better than it actually was, yet the promoters threatened to can the sidecars this season due to having around ten confirmed entries, which is sure to be more.

[jellywrestler]

They had nowhere near ten super bikes. it was a mixed grid with superstock, so looked far better than it actually was, yet the promoters threatened to can the sidecars this season due to having around ten confirmed entries, which is sure to be more.

to be fair there's a two year lead in time for new rules and there were a few riders with new bikes running them as superstock, rather than superbike them, and have to back spec them to superstock. they also had superbike B. this year will see bigger grids again, and with what i've seen with sidecars they'll be busy, what about next year though when the old 'invercargills too far away' moan rears its ugly head again?


have you thought about taking leaf out of their book and combining F1 and F2 sidecars?

[roogazza]

the whole world is moving away from competitive sports, focus is going on personal bests etc, track days mean people can have six or seven shots in the day, if they want to go home no-one notices, they pack up and go.

Its a bugger if thats what is happening Spyda.
At least you can stick a Go pro on your head and pretend I suppose.(and then get a photo with your knee on the ground to back it up lol).
Nothing is forever,as they say ? Enjoy what ya got,while you can huh ?

[jellywrestler]

At least you can stick a Go pro on your head and pretend I suppose:

nah, you can't even do that now, they reckon a go pro contributed to his head injuries so they're not allowed on brain buckets, plus they cought people screwing them on.
why on earth can't go pro make a cool looking streamlined camera? we gave up square shape shit like that before the depression as it wasn't aerodynamic?

[Reckless]

Contour Roam like I have is the best option, exactly why I got it Spyda didn't want a box sticking out.
The sticky came off the helmet at 200k last track day at Puke, Picked it up off the back straight, the bloody thing still goes
Cant put it on the helmet racing though, rules are rules and I agree. I guess the dumb cunt that took a drill to his helmet screwed it for everyone else

You just cant do without the media unfortunately.
IMAGINE if the stuff thats happened between Choppa, Tony and the championship had happened between Marquez and Rossi or Marquez and Lorenzo.
The hype that would be going into next session about mortal enemies fighting it out next year would be boiling over!!!
Doesnt matter that Choppa and Tony don't hate each other, its about MARKETING. They could both sit back laugh and enjoy the extra sponsors money generated
But without the media only a few on a forum or two are involved. Very hard, even with the effort of a few getting the info to the media.
Mainly the meetings over history packed with punters every time have been road racing. Cemetary, Paeroa, Masterton street races, Gracefield etc.
My mum took me to Gracefiald as a kid. We had our spot in the inside of the corner end of the start finish straight.
Same place as the chick in the cut off jeans Hot pants every year Lordy lordy the effect she had on a young minor well nuff said LMAO.
From what I saw there where not that many punters at the 500 car event last weekend at Hampton even with their marketing budget.
Hard one to answer you seem to need drama and media for gate takings or danger like on the streets.