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    I think the points are correct first time from Taupo, Tony had started another lap after Sloans red flag. Dont know why or how someone can fiddle with the points after the fact, someone who thinks there really important no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    I couldn't find my favorite flavor V at the bakery today, had to drive all the way to the other end of the street!
    A good fridgey would have a van full of it and a custom made fridge in his wagon for it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    I think the points are correct first time from Taupo, Tony had started another lap after Sloans red flag. Dont know why or how someone can fiddle with the points after the fact, someone who thinks there really important no doubt.
    the log clearly says crash occurred, then 1 minute later red flag, there are more than just two bikes in the race and unless the whole field has crossed the line it must back a lap.

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    more episodes than shortland street....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    the log clearly says crash occurred, then 1 minute later red flag, there are more than just two bikes in the race and unless the whole field has crossed the line it must back a lap.
    It doesn't say that in the rules;

    6.
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    Stopping & Starting a Race:
    Should it be necessary to stop a race due to an accident or climatic or other
    conditions that make it hazardous to continue, a red flag will be d
    isplayed at
    the finish line under the direction of the Steward or Clerk of the Course, once
    instructed, all flag points are to display waved red flags. Upon sighting the red
    flag riders are to cease racing immediately and at touring pace return to the pit
    lane or the safest point on the track at the discretion of the Clerk of the Course
    (this point to be announced at riders briefing), where they will stop and await
    further instructions.
    The decision to stop a race for whatever the reason can only come f
    rom the
    St
    eward or Clerk of the Course.
    For climatic reasons the race can only be
    stopped once. When a race has been stopped immediately any result or
    decision is based on the race order of the previous lap then the number of laps
    referred to in A and B
    is the number of laps effected before the lap in which
    the race is stopped.
    A.
    If two laps or less are completed:
    a.
    The original start shall be declared null and void.
    All riders taking part in the original start shall be allowed to restart
    e
    ither
    on the original machine or on another machine
    p
    rovided it has been
    approved as fit to race by the machine examiners. The restarted race shall
    be for the full race distance and the original
    g
    rid positions will be used.
    The place of any motorcycle unab
    le to take part in the restart shall be left
    vacant.
    b.
    If it is not possible to restart the race, no points will be awarded towards
    the championships.
    c.
    In all cases where a res
    tart takes place, this will be within
    30 minutes after
    the initial race has
    been stopped.
    ©Motorcyclin
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    B.
    If three or more laps but less than two thirds of the race distance have
    taken place.
    a.
    The race shall be considered to be more than one part. The race
    positions at the end of the lap preceding the stopping of the race
    will be
    the gr
    id positions if a restart takes place.
    In
    all cases where a restart takes
    place, this will be
    as soon as possible
    after the previous part has
    been
    stopped.
    b.
    The distance of the restarted race will be that required make up
    the initial full race distan
    ce.
    c
    .
    Only those riders who have accomplished at least 65% of the laps
    realised by the first rider of the preceding part will be authorised
    to restart. Machines
    can not be replaced
    .
    d
    .
    Half points will be awarded to each part. If it is impos
    sible to
    restart the race, half points only will be awarded towards the
    championship.
    C.
    If two thirds of the race distance is completed:
    a.
    This shall be declared a full race. The finishing order shall be at
    end of the lap preceding
    the stopping of the race.
    b.
    Full championship points will be awarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    It doesn't say that in the rules;


    When a race has been stopped immediately any result or
    decision is based on the race order of the previous lap then the number of laps
    referred to in A and B
    is the number of laps effected before the lap in which
    the race is stopped.
    except right here and simple common sense says that you can't award points for two different laps, clutching at straws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    except right here and simple common sense says that you can't award points for two different laps, clutching at straws?
    Doesn't state how many have to have completed the 'previous lap', a lap can be completed by just one rider....or does that lap not count!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    Doesn't state how many have to have completed the 'previous lap', a lap can be completed by just one rider....or does that lap not count!?
    Last lap completed refers to the field. Not just one bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Last lap completed refers to the field. Not just one bike.
    it does not say completed, it says the lap preceding, so I can see the argument above,

    The race positions at the end of the lap preceding the stopping of the race
    will be the grid positions if a restart takes place.
    anyway, this is all just discussion about taupo, as that result has not been appealed, its only Hampton Downs that has been ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    it does not say completed, it says the lap preceding, so I can see the argument above,



    anyway, this is all just discussion about taupo, as that result has not been appealed, its only Hampton Downs that has been ,
    No, Taupo is the result under appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    it does not say completed, it says the lap preceding, so I can see the argument above,



    anyway, this is all just discussion about taupo, as that result has not been appealed, its only Hampton Downs that has been ,
    Also. "The race positions at the end of the lap preceding ".

    Be fucken hard to work that out if the whole field didn't first have to complete the lap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    Sloan Frost did not crash at Hampton Downs

    i'll put my hand up for that stuff up, I was commentating alone and said he'd crashed,
    spyda
    That's surprising, every NZ bike meeting I have been to no one could understand a single word from the p.a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    That's surprising, every NZ bike meeting I have been to no one could understand a single word from the p.a.
    http://www.i-film.co.nz/watch.html haters will be haters.

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    Still on hold by the looks of this only published yesterday??

    http://amcn.com.au/editorial/kiwi-controversy/

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