2017 NZSBK Superbike Championship - on hold

**Crasherfromwayback** · 28th October 2017, 12:42

Originally Posted by Drew

You don't know what you're talking about and you're being a cock if you're suggesting that Chop took a dive to get the race red flagged.

You're a fucken hypocrite and seemingly not worthy of the respect so many of us have given you.

Eat shit cunt.

Care to show me where I said that?

And do you seriously think I care what a tossbag like yourself thinks of me Drew? Any respect I have, I earnt on a racetrack. Unlike yourself.

As for the eating shit bit...look up the word hypocrite you used for me. You're the one eating huge servings of it. Sloans.

**Kickaha** · 28th October 2017, 12:42

Mint, this is like the KB of old

**Crasherfromwayback** · 28th October 2017, 12:43

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Mint, this is like the KB of old

Lol. Great eh! I'm having a great old time. Drew's such a winner. I have such respect for him.

**Drew** · 28th October 2017, 14:06

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Lol. Great eh! I'm having a great old time. Drew's such a winner. I have such respect for him.

Cool story.

**Grumph** · 28th October 2017, 14:21

Well, lets hope Sloane can shut the arguments down with a clear win this season.....

Or anyone else. Please.

**Drew** · 28th October 2017, 14:30

Originally Posted by Grumph

Well, lets hope Sloane can shut the arguments down with a clear win this season.....

I'm just amazed that people are focusing on the Who, and not questioning the why.

It doesn't matter fuck all who gets the crown. Whether any of us want either rider to win is beside the point.

That it has been so completely fucked up by MNZ or the officials thereof is what is contended by Sloan.

The last hearing was run with complete ineptitude.

Appeals have been made that lack a bloody protest to begin with. How the fuck does that work?

**sidecar bob** · 28th October 2017, 14:35

I have no problem who wins, I do have a problem with the outcome being constantly challenged.
It needs to be put to bed before the flag drops on the Suzuki Tri series.

**Drew** · 28th October 2017, 14:39

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

I have no problem who wins, I do have a problem with the outcome being constantly challenged.
It needs to be put to bed before the flag drops on the Suzuki Tri series.

The outcome hasn't been challenged. The process and those running it have.

**sidecar bob** · 28th October 2017, 14:43

Originally Posted by Drew

The outcome hasn't been challenged. The process and those running it have.

It's still Tomato however you say it.

**scott411** · 28th October 2017, 14:47

Originally Posted by Drew

You don't know what you're talking about and you're being a cock if you're suggesting that Chop took a dive to get the race red flagged.

You're a fucken hypocrite and seemingly not worthy of the respect so many of us have given you.

Eat shit cunt.

Sloan need more points out of a race he crashed in and caused a red flag in to get the title, seems as far as you can get from from natural justice to get a win in a race where you caused a red flag,

and MNZ did fuck up, they changed the points mid week from what was posted at the track, the Rees's had everyright to appeal that dumb ass call, as Sloan would have had the right to protest those results on the day,

**scott411** · 28th October 2017, 14:48

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Mint, this is like the KB of old

good aye, we have been far to nice to each other for years now,

**scott411** · 28th October 2017, 15:00

Originally Posted by pritch

Friend of mine was on the MNZ council for years and he told me that once the lawyers started talking "natural justice" it became very difficult for MNZ to win. From what we've already read of the last hearing, Sloan would seem to have a case in that regard. Without going back and checking, I'm referring to the part where somebody who was adjudicating did not even read Sloan's evidence because that person didn't have the appropriate software.

Meantime I suppose we can console ourselves that the non-motorcycling community knows nowt about all of this.

it depends on what the ruling was, (which i have not seen release of the second one) . from what i understand, the Rees's appealed the fact the points from taupo where changed the week after without an offical protest being laid or heard, which the appeal panel agreed with and over turned the change, Sloan went to the Sports Tribunal and successfully argued that was a affected party he should have his thoughts heard, and they put it back to the appeal panel, which still agreed that the points should not be changed when no offical protest was laid, not to sure if anything Sloan apart from a protest fee receipt could change that decision

I had a similar appeal back in 99 NZ MX champs. they cancelled the points from the meeting on tuesday after the event, it never got to the appeal board as the club involved had appealed as well, ironically Sloan beat me in points that year by a couple of places

**Drew** · 28th October 2017, 15:10

Originally Posted by scott411

Sloan need more points out of a race he crashed in and caused a red flag in to get the title, seems as far as you can get from from natural justice to get a win in a race where you caused a red flag,

and MNZ did fuck up, they changed the points mid week from what was posted at the track, the Rees's had everyright to appeal that dumb ass call, as Sloan would have had the right to protest those results on the day,

My comment re appeal was regarding Hampton downs. No one protested the results, yet post event there was an appeal.

Re the Taupo result. Even the new rules take the results back to the last cometeted lap (I'll have to check the definition of 'completed') from the time the red flag goes out. If the red flag is caused by the leader, they are not excluded from the result.

What I think should happen is that Taupo results are so fucked that no points should be awarded. Sloan has been awarded 6th place for fuck sakes. It's 1st or DNF. He never crossed the line in 6th.

The lap scorer made the mistake. The clerk of the course is recorded as having said the results go back to lap 4. If he didn't agree with that then Tony would have been able to appeal at the time and life would have been easier now. But a mistake was made by not listening or simply getting it wrong, and that was corrected at a later date. Aaaaaaand then it gets blurry.

**Drew** · 28th October 2017, 15:13

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

It's still Tomato however you say it.

Bullshit.

Yeah, of course he wants to win. But he will accept the decision of a fair hearing. As soon as he gets one of those, the series will have a winner.

**scott411** · 28th October 2017, 15:27

Originally Posted by Drew

The lap scorer made the mistake. The clerk of the course is recorded as having said the results go back to lap 4. If he didn't agree with that then Tony would have been able to appeal at the time and life would have been easier now. But a mistake was made by not listening or simply getting it wrong, and that was corrected at a later date. Aaaaaaand then it gets blurry.

all results are final 30 minutes after being posted, unless you protest them,

and to quote yourself earlier in this thread,

Nobody cares what you think the rules should be. Ya got that? Stop putting that in to the thread. We don't care.