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    They won't do that again.

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    castle law. (a man's home is his castle, you cant be criminally charged for pretty much anything on your property)

    shown to reduce incidence of burglary 80%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    castle law. (a man's home is his castle, you cant be criminally charged for pretty much anything on your property)

    shown to reduce incidence of burglary 80%
    *75%

    He didn't get the getaway driver....

    3/4 though aint bad - especially in the dark.

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    Interesting that they charged the getaway driver with first degree murder.

    I find myself not very sympathetic, if you're doing burglary in the USA you surely must know there's a high chance you'll get blown away if caught. I'm pretty sure most Kiwibikers would blast anyone they caught near their bikes.

    'Murica

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    Awesome...need more of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Interesting that they charged the getaway driver with first degree murder.
    That surprised me. Some years ago when discussing a then high profile local murder case, a former US Marine long resident in the greater Wellington area, told me that in the US if you kill someone on the way to committing a felony, while committing a felony, or while leaving the scene of a felony, the charge must be murder in the first degree.

    Charging the get away driver with three murders because she was party to a felony burglary is taking that to another level though. Had the burglars killed someone in the house yes, but that's not what happened. Certainly interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That surprised me. Some years ago when discussing a then high profile local murder case, a former US Marine long resident in the greater Wellington area, told me that in the US if you kill someone on the way to committing a felony, while committing a felony, or while leaving the scene of a felony, the charge must be murder in the first degree.

    Charging the get away driver with three murders because she was party to a felony burglary is taking that to another level though. Had the burglars killed someone in the house yes, but that's not what happened. Certainly interesting.
    Just goes to show the US of A has some fucking weird ideas. Just like how they think they're the most free nation on the gawd dayme planet.
    I'd say manslaughter (or their equivalent) would be a more relevant crime. I mean she put them in the position to die but did not intend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Just goes to show the US of A has some fucking weird ideas. Just like how they think they're the most free nation on the gawd dayme planet.
    I'd say manslaughter (or their equivalent) would be a more relevant crime. I mean she put them in the position to die but did not intend it.
    your missing the point. the letter of the legislature stipulates...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Just goes to show the US of A has some fucking weird ideas. Just like how they think they're the most free nation on the gawd dayme planet.
    I'd say manslaughter (or their equivalent) would be a more relevant crime. I mean she put them in the position to die but did not intend it.
    I'm actually fine with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Just goes to show the US of A has some fucking weird ideas. Just like how they think they're the most free nation on the gawd dayme planet.
    I'd say manslaughter (or their equivalent) would be a more relevant crime. I mean she put them in the position to die but did not intend it.
    The whole American legal system is badly broken but I think that law is fine as is. Your gun goes off accidentally and kills someone while you're robbing a bank? That's murder 1. You kill a pedestraian while making your getaway from the bank robbery? That's murder 1. No problem with any of that.

    Her case though is different. We probably won't be able to see how it ends either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    Interesting that they charged the getaway driver with first degree murder.

    I find myself not very sympathetic, if you're doing burglary in the USA you surely must know there's a high chance you'll get blown away if caught. I'm pretty sure most Kiwibikers would blast anyone they caught near their bikes.

    'Murica

    I'm highly lacking in sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfie View Post
    Awesome...need more of that.

    Yep, totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    That surprised me. Some years ago when discussing a then high profile local murder case, a former US Marine long resident in the greater Wellington area, told me that in the US if you kill someone on the way to committing a felony, while committing a felony, or while leaving the scene of a felony, the charge must be murder in the first degree.

    Charging the get away driver with three murders because she was party to a felony burglary is taking that to another level though. Had the burglars killed someone in the house yes, but that's not what happened. Certainly interesting.
    I don't think all states have it, but yes, if committing a crime = to felony, then it's on your head, whatever happens.

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    The story I read was edited to say that the getaway driver has yet to be charged. But the charge was felony murder, not just plain old everyday murder. No idea if there is much of a difference between the two but as she was just a dumb arse getaway driver, she will probably get off comparatively lightly.
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