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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    There were claims I demonstrate a simplistic and limited understanding, surely that is addressing the author, not the content. The obfuscation instead of drilling down to the core disagreement, about what constitutes and experiment.

    The repetition of experiment and result is indeed what I consider to be a core part of science, but I also consider everyday events to simply be unplanned experiments which is what you consider to be observation, so given that, what do we actually disagree on?
    Of a particular thing. That's not a personal attack. I am quite happy to admit I have a limited and simplistic understanding of many things, that doesn't demean me as a person.

    Funnily enough I have asked that myself and did ask if there was a disagreement being created rather than existing in a previous post on this thread.

    Would it help if I called you shitforbrains and then you tell me to fuck off cunt and we end this like a proper kiwibiker thread?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    Of a particular thing. That's not a personal attack. I am quite happy to admit I have a limited and simplistic understanding of many things, that doesn't demean me as a person.

    Funnily enough I have asked that myself and did ask if there was a disagreement being created rather than existing in a previous post on this thread.

    Would it help if I called you shitforbrains and then you tell me to fuck off cunt and we end this like a proper kiwibiker thread?


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    I'd prefer we end this scientifically, with a consensus. It's seems clear to me, that we agree experimentation/observation is at the core of science, and the apparent disagreement was simply one of semantics, not concept. Wouldn't you agree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I'd prefer we end this scientifically, with a consensus. It's seems clear to me, that we agree experimentation/observation is at the core of science, and the apparent disagreement was simply one of semantics, not concept. Wouldn't you agree?
    That isn't nearly as entertaining for the masses.

    I have no issue agreeing with you that experimentation/observation is at the core of science because as you point out I have not disagreed with that. If by semantics you mean I was trying to assert the position that what constitutes valid scientific evidence (and therefore has a place in science) goes beyond repetition of controlled experiments, then absolutely I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Human beings are 60% water.
    Unless ya'll have been on piss. Most likely 60% proof then. Masaru Emoto could well allude to what that 99% space is. Interesting water experiments.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Unless ya'll have been on piss. Most likely 60% proof then. Masaru Emoto could well allude to what that 99% space is. Interesting water experiments.

    He was certainly alternative, but things didn't stack up scientifically. However, maybe swbarnett's wife knows something we don't...

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    Katmans post hanging in there at the #1 spot for over 350 posts.
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Katmans post hanging in there at the #1 spot for over 350 posts.
    I think he gave up on it a while ago


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    He was certainly alternative, but things didn't stack up scientifically. However, maybe swbarnett's wife knows something we don't...
    How do you know that the intention of the scientists conducting the experiment was delivered correctly? Did they measure the brain and heart output to ensure that intent was conveyed? Actually, they're not real questions, but they are parameters for confirming that real intention was delivered. Wonder if swbarnett's wife has that smouldering over the top of the glasses look too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    How do you know that the intention of the scientists conducting the experiment was delivered correctly? Did they measure the brain and heart output to ensure that intent was conveyed? Actually, they're not real questions, but they are parameters for confirming that real intention was delivered. Wonder if swbarnett's wife has that smouldering over the top of the glasses look too.

    The real question mashman is, are you asking if swbarnett's wife wears glasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You can't mention the words Geo-Engineering without being told you're a fucking moron who doesn't know what a contrail is.
    If you post something that is fucking moronic and someone feels free to call you on it then that is a pretty reasonable example of free speech.

    What is it you think SHOULD happen? You want to post nonsense and no one can criticise you for doing so? You'd like free speech for yourself but curtail it for others?
    What you seem to want is to be able to post how you think the moon landings were faked and the Earth is flat without anyone suggesting you might be a right nutter.
    Maybe you shouldn't post those thoughts in your head on a public forum if you don't want anyone else to give their opinions on it.

    You don't understand what a contrail is and you don't understand free speech either!

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    My 94 for U.E. maths must have been a fluke then.
    That just goes to show that you don't need to be unintelligent to be a gullible fool believing in nonsense.
    There are plenty of conspiracy theorists that are well educated and still believe ridiculous nonsense anyway.
    Look at the nutters that are scientologists or anti-vaxxers or anti-GMO or whatever.
    Look at Dr Oz - he was a well respected surgeon before he started getting a Reiki master into the operating theatre, that was when his colleagues realised that he was a fucking idiot.
    Look at Ben Carson - both a qualified neurosurgeon and a whack-job science denier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    You want to post nonsense and no one can criticise you for doing so?

    You don't understand what a contrail is and you don't understand free speech either!
    What would possibly make you think I don't know what a contrail is?

    Is Geo-Engineering 'nonsense'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    What would possibly make you think I don't know what a contrail is?

    Is Geo-Engineering 'nonsense'?
    It looks like you're pretty much answering your own question there!

    First question: It is the stupid nonsense you posted in the Geo-Engineering thread that makes me think that you just don't have a clue about condensation trails from aircraft.

    Second question: The pseudo-scientific BS you posted in the thread about Geo-Engineering was certainly nonsense.

    The stuff you have posted in similar conspiracy theory/pseudo-science threads (e.g. glyphosphate thread) makes me think that you are a gullible fool and because of that I am unable to take you seriously on any topic. I do like that I can post freely my opinions about you and other things, I have never had a problem with my free speech being curtailed. Of course, if this site tells me certain topics are not allowed then that is fine, free speech is not about making private sites allow anything and everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    The real question mashman is, are you asking if swbarnett's wife wears glasses?
    Are I indeed...........
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Anyone else ever see this sort of stuff?

    Goodbye to Britain and the British??


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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Goodbye to Britain and the British??


    So Britain spends centuries trying to colonise the world and now they moan about the world colonising britain.
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