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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post

    However, if you can't type your password correctly and keep getting locked out,...
    I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
    It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
    You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....
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    Depends on dept, personally I don't agree with rolling passwords for many of the reasons you point out. Often the password is written on a postit and stuck on the monitor. However, for some ISO standards etc, as part of a company gaining the accreditation, there are specific requirements, including passwords having an age. Locking out the account after too many incorrect attempts certainly has value, as it slows down any attempt to crack.

    As for the locksmith/key analogy, well, they can only attempt access when standing in front of your house and giving it a crack. Your network account is often open 24/7 to the world (how else do you get your emails on your mobile - access is a double edged sword).

    You'd only have to monitor firewalls (part of what I do) to see the massive attempts at trying to gain access. Eastern bloc and China/Asia are the most common sources. It's easy when things go well to underestimate security, but you'll realise that when it's too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
    It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
    You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....
    Assume I've got your password, and you don't change it (because no user changes their password unless you force them to) - I've got access to everything you have access to, until it changes.

    If I'm smart - you won't ever know I've got access to your account.

    Furthermore - if I'm really smart, I'll use your account to glean information about your corporate network in order to compromise a more privledged account in order to REALLY fuck with your shit.

    So yes - it's actually really important you change passwords to a schedule.

    If it's too difficult to remember - use a Password Vault (like Last Pass or similar)

    Put it this way - in a week, we probably deal with up to 50 Compromised Websites and one of the biggest attack vectors is weak passwords that haven't been changed in a while.

    And as for picking a lock - when you can pick thousands locks simultaneously from the comfort of your own home.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    you know there are alternatives, right?
    Normally I'd agree with you but when you're talking corporate policy there are none. Can't even turn off automatic updates on Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Furthermore - if I'm really smart, I'll use your account to glean information about your corporate network in order to compromise a more privledged account in order to REALLY fuck with your shit.
    How about an owner with weak password that insisted on being a domain admin as it was their network...

    Then they opened a crypto variant...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    .....

    /sysadmin Rant.
    baahahahahahahahaa... you.

    IT head does not a sysadmin make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Normally I'd agree with you but when you're talking corporate policy there are none. Can't even turn off automatic updates on Windows.
    then your in the wrong corporate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    then your in the wrong corporate.
    OS policy is not the only factor when choosing an employer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I think
    you've repeatedly proven you don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I dont get this BS where IT dept says you have to change your password every 30 days. If someone knows your login ID and CAN hack/guess your password after 30 days, surely afterawhile they get better and do it in less than 30 days....
    It gets to the point that you've used so many easy to remember password that you default to the bare minimum criteria and actually make it easier for any potential hackers...
    You dont hear locksmiths saying hey you need to rekey your car or house every 30 days, soembody might have been trying to pick your locka nd their getting close to cutting a master key for your house.....
    batterystaplehorse bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    OS policy is not the only factor when choosing an employer.
    yeah but which fkn muppet running the network allows every single node to whore bandwidth downloading the same shit X times???


    and to be fair, if the company has an os policy (or >3 computers) it's likely not on my list of choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    How about an owner with weak password that insisted on being a domain admin as it was their network...

    Then they opened a crypto variant...
    I would laugh, but it cuts a little too close to home....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I lost three days rebuilding my main work machine after a routine W10 update wrecked it.

    Microsoft. Arseholes, to a man.
    Wot ever are you doing using that stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    batterystaplehorse bro
    Staple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    yeah but which fkn muppet running the network allows every single node to whore bandwidth downloading the same shit X times???
    Noone here. Downloaded once then distributed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    nd to be fair, if the company has an os policy (or >3 computers) it's likely not on my list of choices
    I understand the sentient but this is kind of hard in my line of work.
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