North Korea's future ... or lack thereof

[Gremlin]

My understanding of the Cold war strategy (this may be well wrong) was that nukes were aimed at nukes in the hope you could get his nukes before he got you. So every time the other guy built a nuke you had to find it, build another nuke and aim it at it. This went on for years and years until there were so many Nukes the whole world could be blown up millions of times. If the Yanks or the Chinese want to disarm the North Koreans they'll need lots of intel on where they are located and more than just a carrier battle group to blow up any capability he has of doing damage to the south. Any nukes or chem weapons he may or may not have will need to be destroyed up before he can send them south.

Not quite. It was effectively the threat of mutual destruction. You launch your nukes at me, yeah, sure, I'm toast, but I have a short time frame before they reach me. In that time, I'll be sending all of mine your way, so you're also toast.

[Autech]

Who ever nukes who first the result will be a "Nuclear Winter" which is a term I heard during the nuclear war fear between Russia and the US back in the late 60's early 70's. The NZ media needs to do stories on such a scenario rather than always writing stories in the newspapers about the Alpine Fault going, as my bet is we will see a Nuclear Winter before then.

Be interesting to know how many nukes would cause that kind of fall out. Once again I'm going off my own memory but isn't nuclear winter due to radio active dust going up into the stratosphere and spreading misery all around the world?

Not quite. It was effectively the threat of mutual destruction. You launch your nukes at me, yeah, sure, I'm toast, but I have a short time frame before they reach me. In that time, I'll be sending all of mine your way, so you're also toast.

Mutually assured destruction rings a bell, but I do believe that some of the more accurate nukes were aimed at other nukes in the hope that they could minimise their retaliation ability.

[seattle smitty]

A preemptive strike by us or others is very likely to get a military response from the north, however feeble (per Scoop's info), and will certainly get the response if the strike somehow leaves little fat boy alive to direct things. But if China has agents in place, who have "turned" locals who could stick a needle in fat boy, cooler heads might take over.

Nevil Schute was a dandy writer, but also an aero engineer, and he wrote a fine book on that work which any of you gear-heads would enjoy: "Slide Rule."

[pritch]

Looking on the bright side, at least the nuclear winter should stop the global warming.

I note today, with relief this time, that Trump has been bullshitting again. The naval "armada" that he said was heading for Korea was in fact heading for the Indian Ocean for naval exercises with Australia. That's about 3,500 miles from North Korea.

It's understood that naval authorities are normally coy about the location of their ships, (NZ could learn from that) but Trump has taken it to a new level.

[Brian d marge]

Looking on the bright side, at least the nuclear winter should stop the global warming.

I note today, with relief this time, that Trump has been bullshitting again. The naval "armada" that he said was heading for Korea was in fact heading for the Indian Ocean for naval exercises with Australia. That's about 3,500 miles from North Korea.

It's understood that naval authorities are normally coy about the location of their ships, (NZ could learn from that) but Trump has taken it to a new level.

Is that the john c stennis carrier group , last time I checked was about 300km out of japan. Is that the one heading for Australia ? any why are they holding training with australia ,

[mashman]

Is that the john c stennis carrier group , last time I checked was about 300km out of japan. Is that the one heading for Australia ? any why are they holding training with australia ,

So they can invade NZ

[Autech]

So they can invade NZ

Phuckin bring it!

[Swoop]

Is that the john c stennis carrier group. Is that the one heading for Australia ? any why are they holding training with australia ,

Nah. The Carl Vinson.

Training with Aus is simply because there is a US Marine detachment based there full time.


I wonder if the Fat Kid has worked himself into a fury over nothing yet?

[Brian d marge]

Nah. The Carl Vinson.

Training with Aus is simply because there is a US Marine detachment based there full time.


I wonder if the Fat Kid has worked himself into a fury over nothing yet?

Ok because as far as I know the John s , is sitting on me doorstep

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[pritch]

Nah. The Carl Vinson.

Training with Aus is simply because there is a US Marine detachment based there full time.

I don't know if this carrier group has much to do with the Marines. Just fairly recently there was a big exercise involving naval elements, the Marines, and at least one Australian battalion.

It may be that this current effort is more of a specifically blue water thing? There's a lot of that in the Indian Ocean.

[Brian d marge]

I don't know if this carrier group has much to do with the Marines. Just fairly recently there was a big exercise involving naval elements, the Marines, and at least one Australian battalion.

It may be that this current effort is more of a specifically blue water thing? There's a lot of that in the Indian Ocean.

Yes I've been staring at mine all day

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[pritch]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7689961.html

[oldrider]

"All wars are bankers wars"?

North Korea is no threat to anyone yet apart from sabre rattling their biggest crime is living outside the Federal reserve banking network!

There are only three countries outside that system now - North Korea - Syria - Iran - At the start of the war on terror there were seven!

So is that just a fluke of nature or is there a pattern? Check it out!

"What in god's name are you talking about. The only way I would believe that there were long standing plans to bring down Syria, is if I heard it directly out of the mouth of like a former 4 star general or former presidential candidate or former nato supreme allied commander referencing classified information that he got from the pentagon."

"All wars are bankers wars" like this video says - how does it relate to the North Korea - Syria - Iran situation currently on the world (war) scenario? - You be the judge!

[Brian d marge]

We also forget North Korea opium game ? The Americans don't like competition ya know

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[Swoop]

We also forget North Korea opium game ?

It's the quantity of Meth that they are producing which is more of a problem.
Initially intended for export, to earn foreign revenue, it has now taken off in NK instead.