1st to 2nd Conundrums

**BMWST?** · 23rd April 2017, 20:57

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You never owned an old Bultaco? Montesa? Maico......

xs750???????

**Ocean1** · 23rd April 2017, 21:49

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

The antique BMW in my profile pic requires quite some technique too to be fair.

Doesn't surprise me.

A mate's Bully simply wouldn't change 1st to 2nd without getting either neutral or third two times out of three. He spend hours on it. Eventually re-geared it so he could use 2nd-3rd in a section.

He was a bit unusual, it wasn't normally expected you'd get away with trying to change gear in a section.

**Ocean1** · 23rd April 2017, 21:51

Originally Posted by BMWST?

xs750???????

Never had the pleasure.

**BMWST?** · 23rd April 2017, 22:45

Not the nicest 1 to 2 change in the business

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**trufflebutter** · 24th April 2017, 07:38

''Its important to be aware wrong gearing can happen in traffic too and not to panic if it does''

In this situation, it is always best to gear up rather than click it down. You may end up in a lower gear than what you wanted which brings in a new set of problems.

**caspernz** · 24th April 2017, 07:47

Originally Posted by trufflebutter

''Its important to be aware wrong gearing can happen in traffic too and not to panic if it does''

In this situation, it is always best to gear up rather than click it down. You may end up in a lower gear than what you wanted which brings in a new set of problems.

Oh wow, depends on the variables. I'd sooner be in a lower gear, most bikes will rev to the dark side of the moon, so instead of being bogged in high gear and low revs...

To original poster:
The 1st to 2nd neutral is avoidable by simply being firm with gear selector. If you've just started riding, this problem you'll soon have sorted with practice. Have fun learning to ride.

**Akzle** · 24th April 2017, 07:56

New Guy: there's good advices and bad advices, you're not to know.
The green bars and rainbows under names may offer some clues but are not definitive.
Know you this, though:
C*ssina is an A-Grade Fuckwit and you should never take any notice of anything it says ever.

**nzrobj** · 24th April 2017, 09:43

Originally Posted by Akzle

New Guy: there's good advices and bad advices, you're not to know.
The green bars and rainbows under names may offer some clues but are not definitive.
Know you this, though:
C*ssina is an A-Grade Fuckwit and you should never take any notice of anything it says ever.

Haha I dunno, I've read a few of your posts Akzle!

**caspernz** · 24th April 2017, 10:49

Originally Posted by nzrobj

Haha I dunno, I've read a few of your posts Akzle!

See Akzle, these new guys catch on quick...

**mojo1444** · 24th April 2017, 14:14

If you're learning better buy or ride a Suzuki GN with a gear indicator and never worry about gearing ever again. The gear box is forgiving and the 4th can be used as 3rd and 3rd as second so it has a good range to play with. Change your boots makes a big difference.

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**caseye** · 24th April 2017, 18:07

To the OP= Original Poster.
Know this, while some in this thread have made light of ol Arskles post, be advised on the subject of Mrs Cassina. he is 100% correct.
Please do not give this person 1 seconds credence. They seriously have no idea of how to ride a motorcycle and if you ever inadvetantly tried anything they said I'd be surp[rsied if you werent bitten to death by a pack of road running motoryccle chomping rabid dogs.
No bull, please, I implore you, check out every thread this poster has ever been on before you even begin to think you might actually do anyhting they advise. You WON't after that.
Anyway, first to second, if you've ever owned an old 81 Coal Burning TR1 Jam Jar = 928cc Yamaha fully enclosed chain, high performace V twin that the Europeans will kill, for in good condition.(Which my ol girl is)
You will know that the first to second gear change is a real bitch to master. not impossible, just a bitch.
If the bike is cold, she'll not change up most of the time, without being kicked hard.
If shés had a while in top and you suddenly have to motor through town, changing up and down and selecting first and second a lot she'll mess you about.
Just a matter of knowing what to do really,no real need to panic, be gentle with you machine, put it in properly an if it ;doesn't take, do it again and wait for the click.
Go out and enjoy your ride. master it and take no shit from it, it's there to do what you want.
Welcome along to KB.
Do not listen to anyting IT says.
If unsure what IT , is, PM me.

**Akzle** · 24th April 2017, 19:10

Originally Posted by cassina

I learnt to ride a bike without a gear indicator and while they would help you find neutral quicker at the lights they could be a dangerous distraction looking at them once you were on the move. Certainly not a must have in my opinion for a beginner. ABS could very well be though.

yeah. fuck having anything like lights on a dash to distract and/or panic you. might as well get rid of your speedo and tach too, just to make sure you're 100% focused.