The Future of Work

[Ocean1]

I hate when my PC at works has issues as means " Raising a Ticket" and dealing with India.
Encourages me to try and fix it myself which involved drawing on others experience.... quote social really and time wasting....or as I see it networking and leveraging internal capabilities

As they have got rid of the IT department the next one will be 'self build' where it arrives in a box and you have to set it up yourself dealing with India.
From what I have seen of that can take days and you can involve all you workmates.

Pretty sure that would encourage me to consider the boss was failing to supply me with the tools required to do my job.

And it's not my job to deal with an Indian IT "service" supplier. Or in fact most of the many IT "service" suppliers I've ever had to deal with.

Comes under article 2.3 in my "No Arseholes" policy.

[nerrrd]

Isn't AI going to be the real kicker? That'll mop up all the coding / support / service jobs that the several billion of us with our somewhat limited biological intelligence might otherwise be doing.

Then what? I think even some of the top human brains out there are a little concerned about what happens when AI is smarter than we are.

I did hear someone suggest that governments might have to tax automation/AI to finance a universal income.

[oldrider]

Isn't AI going to be the real kicker? That'll mop up all the coding / support / service jobs that the several billion of us with our somewhat limited biological intelligence might otherwise be doing.

Then what? I think even some of the top human brains out there are a little concerned about what happens when AI is smarter than we are.

I did hear someone suggest that governments might have to tax automation/AI to finance a universal income.

- always thought government was AI? -

[Akzle]

- always thought government was AI? -

artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

[Voltaire]

Pretty sure that would encourage me to consider the boss was failing to supply me with the tools required to do my job.

And it's not my job to deal with an Indian IT "service" supplier. Or in fact most of the many IT "service" suppliers I've ever had to deal with.

Comes under article 2.3 in my "No Arseholes" policy.

I think taking that view would see my " Resource Actioned" fairly smartly being a contractor and all....

[Gremlin]

Encourages me to try and fix it myself which involved drawing on others experience.... quote social really and time wasting....or as I see it networking and leveraging internal capabilities

Haha, must remember that network and leveraging internal capabilities The only problem with trying to fix it yourself, is we have one client that builds circuit boards and security systems and tests intrusion detection etc. Highly capable and boss is honest. He charges out his staff for more than he contracts us, so why would he get his staff to fix their own issues? Only problem is sometimes they do try, and instead of a simple fix, I have to unravel all the attempts, then fix the original problem I'm sure mechanics get that as well...

artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

Had a client staff member during the week, despite full support from us, get a call from Microsoft and they tried to let them into their system (coz, like, that scam hasn't been around for years). Doesn't matter how secure you make something... humans will try to break it

[Ocean1]

I think taking that view would see my " Resource Actioned" fairly smartly being a contractor and all....

In which case you're wasting everyone's time there, go find something worthwhile to do with your time.

"If you pit a good performer against a bad system, the system will win every time." W E Deming.

https://blog.deming.org/2015/02/a-ba...on-every-time/

[Akzle]

..). Doesn't matter how secure you make something... humans will try to break it

yet to find the keyboard jockey that's committed enough to punch shit into a terminal.

[Brian d marge]

yet to find the keyboard jockey that's committed enough to punch shit into a terminal.

https://youtu.be/S0sYriIsvr4

Issues with technology..

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[Zedder]

Doesn't matter how secure you make something... humans will try to break it

Apparently Vodafone and Spark have recently admitted to having "back doors" into their modems and reckon they're a huge benefit to their customers.

[Voltaire]

In which case you're wasting everyone's time there, go find something worthwhile to do with your time.

"If you pit a good performer against a bad system, the system will win every time." W E Deming.

https://blog.deming.org/2015/02/a-ba...on-every-time/

Worthwhile .... I'll have to Google that.

[Gremlin]

Apparently Vodafone and Spark have recently admitted to having "back doors" into their modems and reckon they're a huge benefit to their customers.

Saw that earlier today. I've never used ISP modems, now it might be a solid reason why you replace/refuse them. I do remember Orcon having remote access to a clients modem years ago, but it was easy to block, and I did it as a matter of course, then they suddenly couldn't troubleshoot something, so re-enabled it temporarily. Not the same as a built in back door like that story.

It's not like the majority of ISP modems are any good anyway.

[Swoop]

We saw a similar thing here when the local govt agencies, (ministry of works, railways, electricity depts) stopped training apprentices. They'd noticed that the wee bastards all buggered off for better money or an overseas trip as soon as they were out of their time, so the thought was that if private enterprise needed them then they could bear the cost of training them.

Didn't happen. For the better part of two decades there were far fewer new tradesmen made in NZ.

A two pronged approach eventuated, with "government apprentices" basically phased out and industry refusing to train new lads. Companies were fully prepared to go head-hunting to find people (then pay more to attract them) instead of growing their own people.

The second problem was (still is) the "careers advisers" in schools.
Apart from having zero clues about employment opportunities, they were drawn from the academic world and simply regurgitated the "you must go to university" approach. This does not suit all students and a heck of a lot thrive in a vocational environment / want to produce things with their hands / don't want a student debt.

[Brian d marge]

A two pronged approach eventuated, with "government apprentices" basically phased out and industry refusing to train new lads. Companies were fully prepared to go head-hunting to find people (then pay more to attract them) instead of growing their own people.

The second problem was (still is) the "careers advisers" in schools.
Apart from having zero clues about employment opportunities, they were drawn from the academic world and simply regurgitated the "you must go to university" approach. This does not suit all students and a heck of a lot thrive in a vocational environment / want to produce things with their hands / don't want a student debt.

Got to have a student debt. It's the American way...

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[Ocean1]

The second problem was (still is) the "careers advisers" in schools.

I can fix that.