Should new tyres really be that slippery!!

[T.W.R]

Cadence braking Tell us more.

Why the know it alls will just poo-hoo it anyhow read between the lines of the 1st post it's mentioned and you'll be somewhere near it....think manual ABS

I thought "Cadence Braking" was just a flash term for braking too hard then releasing to regain traction then braking too hard then releasing to regain traction then braking too hard then... crash...

Nothing to do with braking "too" hard at all and has nothing to do with regaining traction at all...it's all about maintaining traction
A properly set-up & fully functioning front brake system has a amazing amount of feel to it

[roogazza]

Why the know it alls will just poo-hoo it anyhow read between the lines of the 1st post it's mentioned and you'll be somewhere near it....think manual ABS



Nothing to do with braking "too" hard at all and has nothing to do with regaining traction at all...it's all about maintaining traction
A properly set-up & fully functioning front brake system has a amazing amount of feel to it

Though nowdays at the tender age of 68, I tend to wake up to slide/drift, after the event really !!! haha

But yes on the cadence braking,I introéd that into the police driving syllabis. The recruits thought it was a great idea and got a lot out of it.
Takes a lot to train the brain to release, in panic stop situations,eg slippery surfaces.

[Honest Andy]

Nothing to do with braking "too" hard at all and has nothing to do with regaining traction at all...it's all about maintaining traction
A properly set-up & fully functioning front brake system has a amazing amount of feel to it

Sorry mate, just joking, didn't mean to piss you off
I know what you're talking about, and understand it. It takes a lot of practice to master the subtleties. But I've driven and ridden with people who thought they were cadence braking but really were just making it worse by being heavy-handed...

[T.W.R]

Sorry mate, just joking, didn't mean to piss you off
I know what you're talking about, and understand it. It takes a lot of practice to master the subtleties. But I've driven and ridden with people who thought they were cadence braking but really were just making it worse by being heavy-handed...

You're fine, just unfortunately what you'd posted was a good example of what not to do I knew you were taking the mickey

Though nowdays at the tender age of 68 I tend to wake up to slide/drift after the event really !!! haha

But yes on the cadence braking,I introéd that into the police driving syllabis. The recruits thought it was a great idea and got a lot out of it.
Takes a lot to train the brain to release, in panic stop situations,eg slippery surfaces.

yeah I'd probably be in the same boat if I had to do it in an emergency now too.....reminds ones self to go & hone up ones more subtle riding techniques when time allows.
That's the big decider in things is training the brain to remain composed in situations where natural instinct is to panic....knowing the abilities of the equipment & having faith in what they're capable of makes a huge difference.
The quality, strength & feel of brake systems these days being able to cadence brake is a lot easier than it used to be albeit systems without ABS

[ellipsis]

...my old T20 had a wheel and TLS up front from a Yamaha of the period...the first lap of Ruapuna was cadence braking but more to keep a bit of life in the shoes, after that lap it was cadence braking to just check that they were actually doing anything at all...after that lap it was cadence braking in a forlorn hope that something might just slow it down...the Suzuki brakes were non existent after three corners...

[Maha]

Why the know it alls will just poo-hoo it anyhow read between the lines of the 1st post it's mentioned and you'll be somewhere near it....think manual ABS

We I did my BHS, progressive braking was taught. I recall one time (and oldguy will remember this) I used it successfully when said oldguy pulled in front of me and stopped, I was slowing at the time but I could see a rather messy moment looming ahead of me, applied the progressive braking, Anne ended hard up behind me on the seat (not such a bad thing) and the front wheel of the Triumph ended up just inside the real wheel and pipe of oldguy's VTR, well it certainly seemed that.

There shouldn't be any poo pooing of braking techniques that potentially will save you grief, too much poo poo is not a good thing.

[T.W.R]

you've had one too many taps on the fuckin head

[Crasherfromwayback]

I tap the brakes multiple times when coming to a stop on a wet road

In my accidents I was so close there was no time to brake at all which is something many on here have never experienced from their posts to me on the topic of braking.

There's always time to brake unless you get hit by a scud missile.

[T.W.R]

There's always time to brake unless you get hit by a scud missile.

[old slider]

This has turned into one of the better threads for us less experienced riders, sorting out the wheat from the chaff is getting easier the longer you use you the forum and I thank you guys for willingly sharing your knowledge.

This quote from T.W.R. gives me a glimmer of hope and a remote chance, due to having much slower reflexes and a brain to match.

"A slip or slide can happen at anytime on the road, on any tyre. Knowing not to grab shit and pull/twist when it does will more than likely allow you to buy a beer later and laugh about it. The front wheel works like a gyroscope in that, it is free to alter in direction, working against this force will often end in a sad face".

[T.W.R]

This has turned into one of the better threads for us less experienced riders, sorting out the wheat from the chaff is getting easier the longer you use you the forum and I thank you guys for willingly sharing your knowledge.

This quote from T.W.R. gives me a glimmer of hope and a remote chance, due to having much slower reflexes and a brain to match.

"A slip or slide can happen at anytime on the road, on any tyre. Knowing not to grab shit and pull/twist when it does will more than likely allow you to buy a beer later and laugh about it. The front wheel works like a gyroscope in that, it is free to alter in direction, working against this force will often end in a sad face".

Wasn't me That wee gem came from Maha

[Akzle]

Or get some training so the slides don't happen in the first place.

nah just lern to do some fokken sikk skids cunt

[Jeff Sichoe]

I practice emergency braking at every red light and stop sign, then when shit gets real it's not emergency braking anymore it's just regular ass braking

[mossy1200]

Makes me smile every time.

[awayatc]

you've had one too many taps on the fuckin head

Or maybe not enough.....?