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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Some of you people might be too young. I can remember the top Police and Transport guys, probably also a Minister, announcing that we were going to have breath testing but nobody would ever be breath tested unless there was evidence that their driving was impaired. Almost immediately it transpired that a cracked tail light was evidence of alcohol impairment. Then they decided they didn't need to bother with that and that they could just breath test anybody anytime.

    Originally Periodic Detention was for low level mainly non-violent offending. No more, there's some seriously bad bastards doing PD now. Same with home detention, that was never going to be used for violent offenders. Yeah right!

    And so demerits were only to be used for driving offences. Until some shiny arse decided otherwise. There's a pattern there.
    When I started as a baby traffic cop we could only breath test a driver if we had good cause to suspect recent consumption of alcohol, (typically glazed or bloodshot eyes, slurred sperch, smelling of drink eyc) and/or a mobile traffic offence had been committed. A broken tail light was an example. Or any other standard offence.

    In 1992 they wanted to follow the Victorian Random Breath Test model, so had to change the legislation so that a cop could stop you simply for the purpose of a breath test. This was to allow Booze Bus-style operations. Such is the law now. Yet people, especially drunk ones, still ask "Why did you stop me?"

    You're right regarding the pattern. Things evolve.

    The demerit system has morphed over the years, leaving anomalies. Red light tickets have no demerits, but having a noisy exhaust does. Seatbelt tickets have no demerits, but vehicle licence tickets do.

    It's challenging to address those issues when the political will to do so isn't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    And in regards to Pritch's post....almost text book to why the oldman left the Ministry of Transport because he pulled up a car for that exact reason and upon coming to the driver's door could smell the alcohol & shit...yep the arsehole had shit himself & was rolling drunk behind the wheel and was a High Court Judge....the case went to court and the whole lot was tried to be swept under the carpet & hidden just because of who the offender was and the connections the prick had...corruption ran deep in those circles for many years.
    Still have the prosecution papers and makes for interesting reading
    Wheels within wheels? I recall a local businessman, and political party member, who failed to give way at an intersection and T boned another car. He hurried back to the office and phoned the local MP to arrange for the matter to be 'disappeared'. The problem was made to go away, but it might have taken just a little more effort than first thought, because it turned out the other car was being driven by the local chief traffic cop's wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Wheels within wheels?
    yep pretty much so....and in those days and not intending any offence to catholics but in the Police & MOT in those earlier years you couldn't progress further up the chain than maybe sargent unless you were a mick
    My grandfather was a 37yr police veteran & the oldman 13yrs yrs in the MOT and both had numerous events take place with different people who were in the public eye that were either hushed up or made to disappear
    One particularly funny one was & ChCh locals will know him, Cannon Bob Lowe he was a recidivist shop lifter...during the 50s & 60s my grandfather being the Upper Riccarton police was called multiple times to businesses where Lowe had been caught but almost every time things were made to go away by string pulling further up the chain and unfortunately the general public thought the old prick was a great guy & had no idea he was straight out thief

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    ...same everywhere...in the UK, I drove into the back of a Rover one night driving home from work on a slippery painted section of road...it braked real suddenly and I locked up...I jumped out to see what had happened but the driver just sat in the car when I knocked on the drivers window, a senior cop with more braid on his jacket than an Admiral in full dress was too pissed to even talk properly...he mentioned a dog running out in front of him...I jumped back in my old Renault and fucked off with him dribbling shit down his chin...I'd had a pint or two myself and thought , it's him or me and I knew who it would be if I hung around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Put the bike on-hold for 4 months - until 20th October.

    Then licence for 6 months - through to 20th April. Or until you wish to put on-hold for the winter, say 20th May.

    Just thinking aloud...
    why fuck around, just chuck it on hold for 12 months, after three months it can be taken off hold for no extra cost, just because you put it on hold for twelve months does not mean it has to stay on hold for twelve months but the minimum period is 3 months

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    Thank you all for the witty repartee ...and the good advise.... I now have a plan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by russd7 View Post
    why fuck around, just chuck it on hold for 12 months, after three months it can be taken off hold for no extra cost, just because you put it on hold for twelve months does not mean it has to stay on hold for twelve months but the minimum period is 3 months
    Had rego expiring 8 may. Put on hold 19 April. Renew rego 20 June (2 months after putting on hold). Was gona ride other bike! Didn't have to play catchup for may to June. Looks like 2 months from date of putting rego on hold rather than rego expiry. Put hold on rego on-line if that makes any difference.

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    finally, after 3 pages of drivel someone works it out!, by the way razza11, how long did you re-register it for and whats the expiry date?.

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    Out of interest what happens when driver/rider of non licenced vehicle has an accident and suffers injury?

    a) nothing as ACC picks up the tab

    B) gets a bill for his medical care.

    Also who pays for medical care for Drunk Drivers that cause crashes?
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo Nougo View Post
    finally, after 3 pages of drivel someone works it out!, by the way razza11, how long did you re-register it for and whats the expiry date?.
    I put 12 months back on as I do ride all year. Expiry 19 June 2018. Effectively skipped from 8 may to 19 June as re-reg date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo Nougo View Post
    finally, after 3 pages of drivel someone works it out!, by the way razza11, how long did you re-register it for and whats the expiry date?.
    Remember doing a car once where put reg on hold 2 months after expiry. Did reg 1 month later and had to pay for the 3 months from last expiry. So pretty sure date of hold determines what you pay and when you pay it from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razza11 View Post
    Had rego expiring 8 may. Put on hold 19 April. Renew rego 20 June (2 months after putting on hold). Was gona ride other bike! Didn't have to play catchup for may to June. Looks like 2 months from date of putting rego on hold rather than rego expiry. Put hold on rego on-line if that makes any difference.
    Quote Originally Posted by razza11 View Post
    I put 12 months back on as I do ride all year. Expiry 19 June 2018. Effectively skipped from 8 may to 19 June as re-reg date.
    I don't think you understand what happened.

    You had paid up your registration until 8 May. When you put it on hold in April, that hold takes place from the time your existing licence ends on 8 May. You decided to re-register the bike on 20 June for 12 months, so your new registration takes place from that dat (expiring 20 June the following year). The amount you paid for the licence renewal was 12 months registration (20 June to 19 June) PLUS 41 days (8 May to 19 June). I guarantee that's what you paid for - post a screenshot of your invoice, it'll be easy to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Out of interest what happens when driver/rider of non licenced vehicle has an accident and suffers injury?

    a) nothing as ACC picks up the tab

    B) gets a bill for his medical care.

    Also who pays for medical care for Drunk Drivers that cause crashes?
    ACC pays for ALL accident care within New Zealand, regardless. Even tourists who have never paid anything into ACC are covered. That's the way it works, and that's the way it should work in any decent country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    I don't think you understand what happened.

    You had paid up your registration until 8 May. When you put it on hold in April, that hold takes place from the time your existing licence ends on 8 May. You decided to re-register the bike on 20 June for 12 months, so your new registration takes place from that dat (expiring 20 June the following year). The amount you paid for the licence renewal was 12 months registration (20 June to 19 June) PLUS 41 days (8 May to 19 June). I guarantee that's what you paid for - post a screenshot of your invoice, it'll be easy to see.
    Rego cost $522.96. Std 12 months. No other charges. Single line of charges on invoice. Was by chance I had 2 months between hold and re-rego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razza11 View Post
    Rego cost $522.96. Std 12 months. No other charges. Single line of charges on invoice. Was by chance I had 2 months between hold and re-rego.
    What expiry date does it say on the "sticker"?
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