The 'ol putting the bike on hold trick......

[Pist'n'broke]

Hi, I've been reading the archives, just want to be sure I have understood....... my rego runs out on the 20th of this month (June 2017)...if I now put the bike on hold for say 6 months....and then 3 months or more into the hold period ..say November 20th.... re reg for 6 months .....
This will reset my reg start date to Nov 20th.......and will mean I can then go on hold every April 20th..... and re reg for 6 months every November 20th. Do I have this right? And if I do this within days of the end date there will be no backpayments?
Old age and infirmity dictate that year 'round riding is a thing of the past for me. I did my share back in the day.
I find the whole rego/ACC thing a rort and fictional in it's reasoning, but it is what it is.
I'm just looking to skin cats....

[Gremlin]

Just remember the golden rules per se.

- A hold period for any less than 3 months means backpayment of rego
- Maximum hold is 12 months, but you can put on hold for 12 and liven rego after 6.
- You can't start a hold before the rego lapses (you can do the application, but it won't take effect)

[cods4]

What I have done the last few times is I have put the bike on hold for 3 months, say on the 20th of June so that the hold expires on the 20th of September.

I then go to the post office on say the 10-20th of August and pay for 1 month of rego. Note; if you try to do this in the first month or 2 of the hold then you have to backpay the rego from when you put it on hold.

They print me a card which says the bike is registered until the 20th of October.


So in other words the bike is still on hold until the 20th of September and the 1 month rego that I paid for finishes on the 20th of October. But you can put a rego card on ur bike on the 10th of August that says the bike is registered until the 20th of October.
It is still illegal to use the bike on the road as it is unlicensed but I think the only time you would get caught out is if you are pulled over for speeding or something and the cop looks up your bikes details in the system or calls it in or whatever.

Has anyone else discovered this or been caught out doing this?

[MarkW]

Your hold period will start from the end of the current registration - correct.

Your hold period, to be effective, needs to be for a minimum of 3 months but can be set at 3, 4, 5,6, 7,8,9,10,11 or 12 months - it doesn't have to be 3,6,9 or 12 months specifically.

So if you go on hold 20 June then the minimum will take you to 20 September, if you do the 6 months then that will take you to 20 December.

If you want to start your summer riding on the Friday of Labour weekend, make sure that you have a current WOF and on that date you can trot into a motor registration agent and physically register the bike for a minimum of three months. 6 months would take you to the end of April. You will walk out of the registration agent with a new label and will be ready to go. Trying to do it online is not recommended as the rego label is mailed to you and takes a week via snail mail. And the online system has less flexibility than using a motor registration agent.

Your maths is a bit out in that 6 months from your 20 November actually takes you to 20 May.

[MarkW]

What I have done the last few times is I have put the bike on hold for 3 months, say on the 20th of June so that the hold expires on the 20th of September.

I then go to the post office on say the 10-20th of August and pay for 1 month of rego. Note; if you try to do this in the first month or 2 of the hold then you have to backpay the rego from when you put it on hold.

They print me a card which says the bike is registered until the 20th of October.


So in other words the bike is still on hold until the 20th of September and the 1 month rego that I paid for finishes on the 20th of October. But you can put a rego card on ur bike on the 10th of August that says the bike is registered until the 20th of October.
It is still illegal to use the bike on the road as it is unlicensed but I think the only time you would get caught out is if you are pulled over for speeding or something and the cop looks up your bikes details in the system or calls it in or whatever.

Has anyone else discovered this or been caught out doing this?

I have seen this with my rego labels as well - but I don't try and swing a six week advantage and I'm not sure if the regimented computer system will let you do this in the first three months. I know it happens after more than three months as it has happened to me three times so far. As I have 4 motorcycles and never have more than 1 registered at a time [a separate summer and a winter motorcycle!] So I go in a week before I want to start riding the next bike, get a WOF [if needed] and then go get the rego for the desired period at an agent. I walk out with a label with an expiry that expires x months after the current hold period is up.

I start riding straight away but, as I am a paragon of virtue [honestly!???] I have not been pulled over by the authorities to test the validity of the sticker. And as the nearest number plate reader camera is still on trial just south of Kaiwaka [some 210 km away] I haven't tested the label on this latest revenue gathering [sorry - safety related] device.

[cods4]

I have seen this with my rego labels as well - but I don't try and swing a six week advantage and I'm not sure if the regimented computer system will let you do this in the first three months. I know it happens after more than three months as it has happened to me three times so far. As I have 4 motorcycles and never have more than 1 registered at a time [a separate summer and a winter motorcycle!] So I go in a week before I want to start riding the next bike, get a WOF [if needed] and then go get the rego for the desired period at an agent. I walk out with a label with an expiry that expires x months after the current hold period is up.

I start riding straight away but, as I am a paragon of virtue [honestly!???] I have not been pulled over by the authorities to test the validity of the sticker. And as the nearest number plate reader camera is still on trial just south of Kaiwaka [some 210 km away] I haven't tested the label on this latest revenue gathering [sorry - safety related] device.

Yeh it does seem to work if it is on hold for 3 months or less. I put my ducati on hold on the 4th of April and then I went into the post shop on the 29th of May and paid for 1 month (because i want it registered for when I get my full license at the end of this month ). And they gave me a label that expires on the 4th of August.

Edit: I'm sure it wouldn't be legal to use the bike on the road during the "free period". Your insurance might not be valid etc etc. I only intend to take it for the odd weekend ride until I get my full license anyway.

[husaberg]

Just remember the golden rules per se.

- A hold period for any less than 3 months means backpayment of rego
- Maximum hold is 12 months, but you can put on hold for 12 and liven rego after 6.
- You can't start a hold before the rego lapses (you can do the application, but it won't take effect)

Pretty sure you can go longer than 12 months if you tell them for instance you are "restoring" the bike.
You do have to keep applying though.
You used to be able to anyway.
There is also some rather intersting loop holes with the rego for special interest vehicles and replicas of ww1 equipment etc etc.

[neels]

Pretty sure you can go longer than 12 months if you tell them for instance you are "restoring" the bike.
You do have to keep applying though.

The maximum you can put it on hold through the NZTA website is 12 months, then they send you a reminder and you do it again for another 12 months, I've had a car on hold for 20 years doing this.

From memory there is some wording in the legislation (which I can't be bothered looking up) to the effect that it's at the discretion of the registrar of motor vehicles, but I've never heard of it being declined, and I'd guess that every application for a vehicle on hold doesn't actually pass across his/her/it's desk.

[Swoop]

As the nice lady at postshop said "ALWAYS PUT IT ON FOR 12 MONTHS!!!".
You can re-rego at any time if you want to ride (legally).

Anything less than 3 months, you will have to back-pay.

[russd7]

i decided last minute to go to brass so i shot in to vtnz with the zzr on friday morning to get warrant and re reg, was going to reg for three months but when they brought it up in the system they said i had to register for four months or more because it hadn't been on hold for more than three months.

note i was late putting on hold and the hold starts from the date it is actually put on hold it does not get back dated, i had ten days to wait for the three months to be up, but the rego gets back dated to when the last reg ran out.

the fine would have been cheaper than the back dated reg.

note, the bike will be on hold longer now

[cods4]

i decided last minute to go to brass so i shot in to vtnz with the zzr on friday morning to get warrant and re reg, was going to reg for three months but when they brought it up in the system they said i had to register for four months or more because it hadn't been on hold for more than three months.

note i was late putting on hold and the hold starts from the date it is actually put on hold it does not get back dated, i had ten days to wait for the three months to be up, but the rego gets back dated to when the last reg ran out.

the fine would have been cheaper than the back dated reg.

note, the bike will be on hold longer now

That seems strange. As I said above, the last few times i have licensed my bikes after being on hold I have gone to the post shop after they have been on hold just 2 months and they give me a rego card that starts from the date the hold period finishes.

[russd7]

That seems strange. As I said above, the last few times i have licensed my bikes after being on hold I have gone to the post shop after they have been on hold just 2 months and they give me a rego card that starts from the date the hold period finishes.

that has been my experience in the past also but not this time, needless to say the bike stayed on hold, fuckem i say, what pissed me off more than anything was the fact that the back reg was right back to when the last reg ran out not to the date the hold started from, it really is double standards.

[Voltaire]

I've had a 59 Triumph T110 on hold since 1997.

I don't believe the vehicle tax collection system is fair but then I don't approve of how the Govt spends the 47% of my wages either.
I get to complain about that every 4 years but even thats a pretty pointless exercise.

[Swoop]

I get to complain about that every 4 years but even thats a pretty pointless exercise.

You should be like the rest of us and complain every three years...

[granstar]

Another method ?... at a recent rally someone mentioned if owning 5 bikes or more (and why shouldn't you) one can start a museum and get a trade plate for all of the bikes (one rego), know anything bout this?