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    Desperately need help ...

    Hi.
    I have been advised by a friend to request from members some support . My son desperately needs a lawyer who is a motorcyclist and lives in Christchurch, NZ. Following a serious accident 8 weeks ago where a motorist pulled out in front of my son which resulted in several injuries. After weeks in hospital and a questionable Serious Crash Unit investigation the police want to prosecute my son of dangerous driving. The vehicle driver's defense is simply that he didn't see him. My son does not believe that a lawyer who is not a bike rider, would be anything more than a presence in the court and he wants to fight this injustice. Please assist. Thank you in advance.

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    Sorry to hear of your sons accident.
    I can't give you any advice about which lawyer except that you can usually chat to them first before you hire them, to see how willing and keen they are and what they think the chance of success is (and how much it's likely to cost...).
    Also I thought that it didn't matter what your son was doing, speeding or whatever, the primary cause of any accident of this nature is the person who failed to give way, therefore that's always where the blame lies. But that's just my experience, I'm not an expert.
    Sincerely, good luck with your case.
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    I don't think it's good advice to limit yourself to just a biker lawyer. There can't be more than a handful in Christchurch and only a subset of those would do traffic. (Pretty sure one of our Ch members is a lawyer but what sort, I dunno.)

    Road rules are road rules regardless of whether you ride two wheels, four wheels or eighteen wheels. A lawyer who is a biker may be more passionate on behalf of a biker perhaps but any lawyer who does traffic would be able to argue based on the facts and the law.

    Just my humble opinion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artee View Post
    Hi.
    I have been advised by a friend to request from members some support . My son desperately needs a lawyer who is a motorcyclist and lives in Christchurch, NZ. Following a serious accident 8 weeks ago where a motorist pulled out in front of my son which resulted in several injuries. After weeks in hospital and a questionable Serious Crash Unit investigation the police want to prosecute my son of dangerous driving. The vehicle driver's defense is simply that he didn't see him. My son does not believe that a lawyer who is not a bike rider, would be anything more than a presence in the court and he wants to fight this injustice. Please assist. Thank you in advance.
    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    Twat.

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    Pagging Henry.................

    you could also talk to Rastuscat
    he might be able to give you some insight to why your son is being charged form a ex policeman prospective
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    lawyers are all filthy jew cunts. so's court. don't encourage them at all.

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    "Simply didn't see him" really means he wasn't fucking looking,nail the bastard.

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    You could contact the NZ Law Society and ask them for suggestions. There will be lawyers in CHCH that specialise in vehicle/accident related cases and they should know who they are and be able to make recommendations. I did have a look on their search page for you (https://www.lawsociety.org.nz/for-th...d-organisation) but Vehicle/Accident wasn't an option for specialisation so probably needs direct contact to the Society

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    Sorry to hear of your sons accident.
    I can't give you any advice about which lawyer except that you can usually chat to them first before you hire them, to see how willing and keen they are and what they think the chance of success is (and how much it's likely to cost...).
    Also I thought that it didn't matter what your son was doing, speeding or whatever, the primary cause of any accident of this nature is the person who failed to give way, therefore that's always where the blame lies. But that's just my experience, I'm not an expert.
    Sincerely, good luck with your case.
    Agreed.
    'I didn't see him' is hardly a defense and could be considered an admission of guilt if argued properly.

    However, years ago my mate was riding his XR200 at dusk (not dark) with a broken headlight when a car pulled out of a side street right in front of him causing a collision. The driver said he didn't see my mate as no headlight and the cops put the blame on my mate and did nothing about the car failing to give way at an intersection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    'I didn't see him' is hardly a defense and could be considered an admission of guilt if argued properly.
    Everyone says that whether it is a bike or a train they don't see. Would be interested to see what this chap was doing beforehand to go straight to a dangerous driving charge.

    Regardless of what is said above, you cannot always blame the driver. If you come around a blind corner at warp factor nine or ride at night with no lights then you have to give the driver some benefit.

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    i can go around and flour bomb the guys chicken coop if that would help?

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    This ''a questionable Serious Crash Unit investigation'' and this ''the police want to prosecute my son of dangerous driving''?
    Suggest that a lawyer would probably be a waste of good money.

    SCU's generally get it wrong only in the eyes of those to be prosecuted in an accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artee View Post
    Hi.
    I have been advised by a friend to request from members some support . My son desperately needs a lawyer who is a motorcyclist and lives in Christchurch, NZ. Following a serious accident 8 weeks ago where a motorist pulled out in front of my son which resulted in several injuries. After weeks in hospital and a questionable Serious Crash Unit investigation the police want to prosecute my son of dangerous driving. The vehicle driver's defense is simply that he didn't see him. My son does not believe that a lawyer who is not a bike rider, would be anything more than a presence in the court and he wants to fight this injustice. Please assist. Thank you in advance.
    I am a lawyer. I am from Christchurch. I am a motorcyclist.

    This is not my area of competence. I can give you some referrals. What you need is a competent criminal lawyer because emotion aside you are defending a serious criminal charge. Motorcyclist or not does not matter a fuck. Any lawyer instructed will be doing what they do to the best of their ability, particularly if you are paying the full freight and not farting around with legal aid. If you dont have any sing out and I will come up with some names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    lawyers are all filthy jew cunts. so's court. don't encourage them at all.
    absolutely agree. Still, it pays the bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Pagging Henry.................

    you could also talk to Rastuscat
    he might be able to give you some insight to why your son is being charged form a ex policeman prospective
    decent independent expert witness too, if it came to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    This ''a questionable Serious Crash Unit investigation'' and this ''the police want to prosecute my son of dangerous driving''?
    Suggest that a lawyer would probably be a waste of good money.

    SCU's generally get it wrong only in the eyes of those to be prosecuted in an accident.
    A lawyer won't be a waste of money. The point is to test the Crown case. For example the charge might be dangerous driving (presumably causing injury?) but it might be more careless IF you get the disclosure and IF you can do a deal with them. It happens all day every day. If you just rock up to Court and go "Mea culpa" then you will get it straight up the arse no lube. You might still get it straight up the arse but maybe a smaller diameter, or some Astroglide or something

    I've dealt with SCU a couple of times and both times I found them to be very thorough, very professional.
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