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    All cap screws are hardened, you don't need to add HT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    All cap screws are hardened, you don't need to add HT.
    Correct - and that's the problem with just getting them zinc plated. Hydrogen embrittlement.
    Blacks get theirs plated in bulk - then the batches get baked to sort the hydrogen embrittlement.
    Never had one of theirs break.

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    The little dimple mean ISO. JIS Phillips are shallower than Phillips. Lost (misplaced) my Matco JIS a few months ago, so took a bit of the point off a cheap Stanley Phillips, now it works better than my now reunited JIS, and is my now go to screwdriver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    so took a bit of the point off a cheap Stanley Phillips, now it works better than my now reunited JIS, and is my now go to screwdriver.
    Ah - I remember doing this now some years back. Got a feeling it went with my old Kawasaki in the tool kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    All cap screws are hardened, you don't need to add HT.

    HT = high tensile. Don't actually mean jack shit without a standards reference, I simply meant "those black high tensile (compared to an old Ajax hex bolt) capheads that used to be pretty much all you could get".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    HT = high tensile. Don't actually mean jack shit without a standards reference, I simply meant "those black high tensile (compared to an old Ajax hex bolt) capheads that used to be pretty much all you could get".
    I avoid the black ones wherever possible. Paint don't stick to them, and the rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    The little dimple mean ISO. JIS Phillips are shallower than Phillips. Lost (misplaced) my Matco JIS a few months ago, so took a bit of the point off a cheap Stanley Phillips, now it works better than my now reunited JIS, and is my now go to screwdriver.
    I had an old, dark green Stanley with the tip ground off, but it disappeared a while back. I should make another one.

    I sometimes go up a size, as the tip doesn't bottom out and fits better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Next time try dabbing some fine valve grinding paste, (yes, yes I know) on them and see how that feels.
    +1 , works well, even if quite munted
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    I wanted a set of JIS (ie, multiple sizes).... struggled like buggery, most people didn't even know they existed, so sorta gave up...

    What did you get?
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    EBay out of France it seems. Bought a 1,2,3 set of bits for my Bahco screwdriver and then just got a size 2 but decent sets seemed very pricey or a bit nasty. Hard to find a midrange set with reasonable shipping. Will show up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    I wanted a set of JIS (ie, multiple sizes).... struggled like buggery, most people didn't even know they existed, so sorta gave up...

    What did you get?

    I have just ordered some from these guys, I'll let you know how it goes. They have a range of options.

    https://www.vesseltools.com/

    I went with a set of 3 screwdrivers and 3 bits for my impact driver, about $50.00 all up. I am shipping via youshop as the quoted freight charges were huge...

    cheers

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    Vessel made impact drivers back in the day. Essential tool for removing "Phillips" screws. Of course, one of the reasons they worked so well was they came with JIS bits ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moise View Post
    Vessel made impact drivers back in the day. Essential tool for removing "Phillips" screws. Of course, one of the reasons they worked so well was they came with JIS bits ...

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    It looks like they still have impact drivers in their range. They have a bundled motorcycle repair kit that includes an Impact Driver, it looks pretty good but I have a driver so just went with the bits to add to the ones I already have.

    https://www.vesseltools.com/handtool...air-kit-detail

    cheers

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    Ordered a set

    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    EBay out of France it seems. Bought a 1,2,3 set of bits for my Bahco screwdriver and then just got a size 2 but decent sets seemed very pricey or a bit nasty. Hard to find a midrange set with reasonable shipping. Will show up.
    Did the same, they turned up after a few days. Cheapest way, and having the option to use different tools with the bit makes sense.

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