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    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    where else is this not the case, in the UK, Aussie Canada and the US all have multi line dealerships, some with all 4 japanese brands in the same building,
    Dealerships globally are being pressured into single-marque models. There are multi brand dealerships all over NZ too, so I don't quite know what point you're trying to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    . It would not surprise me if the wholesalers start side stepping retailers and open there own stores.
    Never gonna happen Bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Thats of no surprise.
    why do you say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Never gonna happen Bro.
    Why not?

    Motorcycle industry seems very stuck in the 80s in regards to company structures. Many other industries are going and have gone this way. Big problem in a place like NZ is getting showroom floor space, this solves that problem.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Never gonna happen Bro.
    im not so sure on this, I have heard rumours that Honda may do this in Auckland,

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    NZ market place too small and widely diverse

    Having complementary motorcycle brands would be nice under the one roof.

    Ducati, BMW, HD


    Having stock on the floor and well present with good staff/service people goes a long way.

    NZders always looking for cheap does damage it.

    Rural/local service, means you get one on one with the sales/service person - forms trust.

    Obviously Honda has a plan. They have lots of dealers about the place. have a look at their dealer map.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    im not so sure on this, I have heard rumours that Honda may do this in Auckland,
    I'd say if they did/do, I think the rest of the country would tell them to stick it up their arse and go to another brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    I'd say if they did/do, I think the rest of the country would tell them to stick it up their arse and go to another brand.
    Which is what is heard when this starts to happen. Some will stay, other will go. But it will happen as it is the only way for wholesalers to get floor space.

    Happened in my trade 10 years ago.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    I hope Blue Wing don't decide to go retail, they can barely function as a wholesaler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I hope Blue Wing don't decide to go retail, they can barely function as a wholesaler.
    Same with Yamaha NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmik de Bris View Post
    Is it me or are there very few Honda dealers around? I'm not up in the national scene, but in Christchurch there only seems to be one but some people I know prefer to go to a more Rural oriented dealer in Rangiora I think. Are the Honda distributers hard to deal with, are Hondas not popular? What's the story?

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    They are expensive right up until they are catastrophically discounted. Catastrophic for the poor bastard who bought one new when they first came out. Combine that with Blue Wing's unwillingness to bring in anything with modern safety aids or even a range of bikes that covers general market requirements and you get a lukewarm sales report.

    Also, most of the Honda dealers are bastards and have to be because they are selling bikes that are comparatively expensive with no margin and little market desirability because Honda don't make class leading motorcycles anymore. You can't even point at a Honda and exclaim about how marvelous its superior finish is because the paint rubs off and the bolts go furry and rusty like Suzuki's used to in the early '90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    I'd say if they did/do, I think the rest of the country would tell them to stick it up their arse and go to another brand.
    it will be interesting to see the backlash if they decide to go with it,

    but maybe they will find a keen entrepreneur to open a honda only store somewhere, they would not be the first distributor to bank roll someone into a shop,

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    it will be interesting to see the backlash if they decide to go with it,

    but maybe they will find a keen entrepreneur to open a honda only store somewhere, they would not be the first distributor to bank roll someone into a shop,
    I see little backlash. If they do it in Central Auckland it makes no difference to any other dealers. Botany Honda are hard to get to with a small showroom so they cant show much. A concept store would get the brand moving.

    And common for a wholesaler to help people into shops, again they need floor space to display product.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    I see little backlash. If they do it in Central Auckland it makes no difference to any other dealers.t.
    That's where you're wrong mate. They'd all be thinking that they would be undercutting them and costing them sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    That's where you're wrong mate. They'd all be thinking that they would be undercutting them and costing them sales.
    Exactly.


    Hondas biggest issue is a lack of interesting bikes lately.

    Look at Yamahas approach to getting out of the global economic crisis that hit the industry some years back - lay low for a few years designing new and interesting bikes then launch them.

    Honda and Suzuki ......

    Kawasaki bolted on a supercharger at least.

    The Europeans - they just released better and better models while the Japanese slept.

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