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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Just how the hell did we survive childhood - climbing trees
    Climbing trees was banned 10 years ago at my kids school we lived over the road - I took mine over there in the weekend and taught them how to climb a friggen tree - should have seen the smiles on their faces .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Just how the hell did we survive childhood - climbing trees, playing in the street, jungle-gyms, swings and slides with hard ground under them, riding bicycles everywhere, crossing railway tracks, and so on - and yet we learnt so much about our own abilities and the consequences when things went wrong.
    Currently we seem to be killing someone at work weekly going by the news reports. Pretty sure that not a good thing.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Wow you are stuck in the past.
    Considering the subject of this thread I'm not so sure. Everywhere you look things are getting "safer" and personal responsibility is being actively discouraged. I mean, what does a track day company care if I were to ride in just shorts but never come off? Something I wouldn't do but surely some sort of carefully worded waver would cover it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Climbing trees was banned 10 years ago at my kids school we lived over the road - I took mine over there in the weekend and taught them how to climb a friggen tree - should have seen the smiles on their faces .
    One school where I taught let kids climb trees, provided they didn't damage the tree... makes them think about what they are doing and don't remember any serious accidents or injuries from a fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Currently we seem to be killing someone at work weekly going by the news reports. Pretty sure that not a good thing.
    Be OK if it was a politician a week ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I had a run in at the office a while ago when I refused to write up a paper cut I received in the book. Fucks sake it's a paper cut - it's not like I was naked in the office and sliced my foreskin off.
    Our safety manual specifically stated (last I saw it) that anything requiring access to the first aid kit has to be reported, followed by a visit from the H&S officer. This is why I keep my own supply of band-aids in my drawer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Considering the subject of this thread I'm not so sure. Everywhere you look things are getting "safer" and personal responsibility is being actively discouraged. I mean, what does a track day company care if I were to ride in just shorts but never come off? Something I wouldn't do but surely some sort of carefully worded waver would cover it?
    I was meaning OSH has not been OSH for ages. As in years.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Currently we seem to be killing someone at work weekly going by the news reports. Pretty sure that not a good thing.
    True, not a good thing. We seem to be doing very poorly in comparison to, say, the UK.

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Be OK if it was a politician a week ........
    I feel the same way about Real Estate agents so if a bus load of them and politicians drove off a cliff, I would not be sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Currently we seem to be killing someone at work weekly going by the news reports. Pretty sure that not a good thing.
    For that statistic to be meaningful we'd have to know what industries the deaths occurred in. There may well be some that could do with a bit of cleaning up (forestry springs to mind but not from personal experience).

    Any way you slice it safety is never first. The first consideration for any living being is survival. Sometimes that means going out on a limb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    True, not a good thing. We seem to be doing very poorly in comparison to, say, the UK.

    Why?
    We are a good 10years behind the UK in H&S implementation and have many like the above that go out of there way to belittle what it means to send everybody home every day.

    UK really started fixing it when some real big fuck off fines started flying around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    I was meaning OSH has not been OSH for ages. As in years.
    Got ya. In which case, yes, I am definitely showing my age (and probably the fact that I haven't had any direct dealings with their ilk in quite a while).
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    For that statistic to be meaningful we'd have to know what industries the deaths occurred in. There may well be some that could do with a bit of cleaning up (forestry springs to mind but not from personal experience).

    Any way you slice it safety is never first. The first consideration for any living being is survival. Sometimes that means going out on a limb.
    I just hope you are not in charge of staff. If so you need to consider retiring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    We are a good 10years behind the UK in H&S implementation and have many like the above that go out of there way to belittle what it means to send everybody home every day.

    UK really started fixing it when some real big fuck off fines started flying around.
    When you say "have many like the above that go out of there way to belittle what it means to send everybody home every day" what are you think of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    We are a good 10years behind the UK in H&S implementation and have many like the above that go out of there way to belittle what it means to send everybody home every day.

    UK really started fixing it when some real big fuck off fines started flying around.
    Directors are now responsible. They can go to prison if their staff have a serious accident.

    Not a paper cut (unless it's in the eye I guess) . Suddenly they are interested.

    Architects should be held responsible for daft arse design. with todays exciting weather our building entrance was a slippery hip cracker of a mess due to pathetic architectural design.

    Next week I will no doubt see at least five important people standing around looking at the entrance wondering what to do (this happened last time). Nothing will happen. Oh - maybe a 'slippery' sign will be introduced.

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