Wanted : A Better Quality of Fake News

[Viking01]

Morning,
It's a lovely fine day down here in the Capital this morning (more fake news).

But at least the power is back on again. I don't envy a linesman's job, so let
me say a general "Thanks" to those chaps.

And "Thanks" to those of you who replied with your thoughts on "fake news" and
"alternative facts", plus supply of names of a few new online news websites that
I hadn't yet come across. Appreciated.

AWS's post (#31) probably summed the situation up well for me, certainly better
than I could have expressed it.

Given that many of the main news organisations cannot simply relay information
to the public without imposing their own "spin", it's probably not that surprising
that we see Donald using Twitter to communicate (?) with his followers.

We live in interesting times.

Cheers,
Viking

[Banditbandit]

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Given that many of the main news organisations cannot simply relay information
to the public without imposing their own "spin",

It is impossible to relay information to the public WITHOUT imposing spin - not even the Government can achieve that through their own information outlets.

[oldrider]

Try this for size - you have to decide for your self if it's true, fake or otherwise! https://www.henrymakow.com/ at least the choice is yours!

[flyingcrocodile46]

There are no one stop news sources. All should be viewed ..... with a healthy dose of scepticism until and even when you cross check and verify with multiple sources and/or links all the way back to originating sources. No source links = a higher probability of fake news. Ultimately you have to make your own assessment as to the possibility/probability of truth and you can't do that by spending just an hour or two a day catching up with MSM news. I spend about 4 to 6 hours a day sampling a broad spectrum of news sources including a lot of the MSM big names (all are slanted imo though RT less so than many incl al Jizzer) and literally dozens (maybe 100ish) of lesser well known alternative media sites. There is no hard truth to be gained, just probabilities.

I support a half a dozen to the tune of over $1k pa.

A few of the lesser known media I visit are listed below in no particular order of preference (this is only a small sample). But the best imo is James Corbett. Fact checker extraordinaire.

https://www.financeandliberty.com/
http://caspianreport.info/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
https://www.newsbud.com/
https://www.corbettreport.com/
https://wearechange.org/
http://www.suspicious0bservers.org/ Climate science, earthquake and weather forecast
https://news.vice.com/en_us
http://lionelmedia.com/
http://www.ronpaulnews.net/
https://pressfortruth.ca/
http://mediamonarchy.com/
http://web.randi.org/
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/

[pritch]

"Alterative facts" was a buzz term coined during the US election which MSM seem to consider synonymous with fake news

Close. It was post election and was first uttered by Kellyanne Conway who found herself in a tight spot during a live interview on TV. That's still probably on YouTube.

These days fake news seems to be anything Trump doesn't like, much of which is not fake at all. Not that there was a shortage of real fake news previously.

[Voltaire]

To be sure dere is only one paper ye need to be reading and its grand so.

No fecking fake feckin news here boi.

tanks a million.

Good enough for me farders farder and handy too.

http://www.tuamherald.ie/

[oldrider]

How dare Russia interfere in USA mock elections: https://www.sott.net/article/357499-...ide-since-1945 Pure white as snow America!

[DeklanM]

My usual sources are
BBC
Al Jazeera
Radio NZ

I actively avoid Stuff

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[rallyfreak]

Try reading zerohedge

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[oldrider]

Have good look at this and listen to the video interview: http://www.bruceonpolitics.com/2017/...great-britain/

[Voltaire]

Have good look at this and listen to the video interview: http://www.bruceonpolitics.com/2017/...great-britain/

Googled Common Purpose and went to their web page http://commonpurpose.org/united-kingdom/

Do the Mafia and Freemasons have a web page?

The Mafia do http://www.mafa.com/s/Www-Mafia-Com-games

Freemasons NZ have one too http://freemasonsnz.org/

[oldrider]

Funny how consistent "time" is in revealing the truth that has been buried by the past! - http://www.globalresearch.ca/false-f...lated_articles - 9/11 anybody?

[bogan]

It is impossible to relay information to the public WITHOUT imposing spin - not even the Government can achieve that through their own information outlets.

Sounds about right, may as well go with the entertainment news shows, good for a laugh at any rate.

Googled Common Purpose and went to their web page http://commonpurpose.org/united-kingdom/

Look at the pictures, all that diversity! No wonder the knuckle dragging bigots are coming up with conspiracy theories and fake news about it.

[oldrider]

NOT CNN

Regime change may not be the main aim of US sanctions against Russia—but it certainly fits the pattern http://russia-insider.com/en/politic...eignty/ri20521

[Viking01]

Afternoon,
Since many of you have been kind enough to furnish me with some newsy
weblinks, thought it was probably time that I do the same in return.

As some have commented, the best approach seems to be to read a variety
of news sites and try and discern some concensus of statement or opinion.
Then balance that against your own political leaning, whether you accept
the result.

Regarding overseas news websites, given current circumstances overseas,
it's hard to find websites that have broad coverage yet don't just present
a consistent US perspective.

For that reason, I don't tend to read the main US newspapers very often.
Nor some of their European counterparts (like the BBC, The Times, Der
Spiegel etc) or their Asian counterparts.


New Zealand New Sites

It's difficult to find NZ based news websites apart from Stuff and NZ Herald.
Have to agree with a few that the refacing of the NZ Herald has not added to
either the quality of its content or its presentation.

The only other NZ based websites that I look at are:
Scoop : http://www.scoop.co.nz/
News Room : https://www.newsroom.co.nz/

and occasionally the blog
No Right Turn : https://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/ (only as a flag
to recent events)


Overseas Newspapers - Inventory by Geographic Area (if you're trying to
find online newspapers or magazines)

http://www.world-newspapers.com/
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/


Overseas News Sites - Europe

I offer a few that some might find of interest. Find that many of the
stories (and their telling) presented on these websites have tended to
"stand the test of time" a little better. You're welcome to disagree.

Russia Insider : http://russia-insider.com/en
Sputnik International : https://sputniknews.com/
Russia Today : https://www.rt.com/

Deutsche Welle : http://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/s-9097
France 24 : http://www.france24.com/en/
Guardian : https://www.theguardian.com/international
Euro News : http://www.euronews.com/
NSNBC International : https://nsnbc.me/

Overseas - Latin America

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/

Overseas - Asia

Asia Times : http://www.atimes.com/
The Diplomat : http://thediplomat.com/ (six free articles per month,
then subscription based)

China Global Times : http://www.globaltimes.cn/
China Daily European : http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/world/
China Peoples Daily Online : http://en.people.cn/
China Money Report : http://www.thechinamoneyreport.com/ (finance focus)

Japan NHK : https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/
Nikkei Asian Review : https://asia.nikkei.com/

Overseas - Middle East

Middle East Online : http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/
Al Monitor : http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/home.html
Middle East Eye : http://www.middleeasteye.net/
Al Jazeera : http://www.aljazeera.com/

Press TV (Iran) : http://www.presstv.com/
FARS News (Iran) : http://en.farsnews.com/

Israel and Palestine : http://mondoweiss.net/
Palestine Chronicle : http://www.palestinechronicle.com/

Caspian Report : http://caspianreport.info/


Overseas - Blogs

There are some many blogs to choose from, so I offer only a few. Quality
and political bias may vary, but interesting editorials or opinion pieces
are often present.

New Eastern Outlook (NEO): https://journal-neo.org/
Informed Comment : https://www.juancole.com/
Common Dreams : https://www.commondreams.org/
Strategic Culture : https://www.strategic-culture.org/
Global Research : http://www.globalresearch.ca/?context=home
ZCommunications ZNET : https://zcomm.org/all-types/
Consortium News : https://consortiumnews.com/
The Conversation : https://theconversation.com/global
Activist Post : http://www.activistpost.com/

Zero Hedge : http://www.zerohedge.com/
CounterPunch : https://www.counterpunch.org/
Truth Out : http://www.truth-out.org/
The Nation : https://www.thenation.com/
The Intercept : https://theintercept.com/
Dissident Voice : http://dissidentvoice.org/
The Peoples Voice : http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/index.php
Tom Dispatch : http://www.tomdispatch.com/
Anti-War : https://antiwar.com/

William Engdahl : http://www.williamengdahl.com/index.php
Ron Paul Institute : http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/
John Pilger (Investigative Journalist) : http://johnpilger.com/articles
Andre Vltchek (Investigative Journalist) : http://andrevltchek.weebly.com/
James Petras : http://petras.lahaine.org/

The 4th Media : http://www.4thmedia.org/
Mint Press : https://www.mintpressnews.com/
Voltaire Network : http://www.voltairenet.org/rubrique120359.html?lang=en
Foreign Policy in Focus : http://fpif.org/
The American Conservative : http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/

Inter Press Service : http://www.ipsnews.net/
True Publica : http://truepublica.org.uk/global/


Cheers,
Viking