Wanted : A Better Quality of Fake News

**bogan** · 5th August 2017, 13:13

Originally Posted by Viking01

Afternoon.

Thanks for the clarification on conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact.
Point understood and duly noted. Please excuse my laziness with terminology.
I'll take more care in future.

Cheers,
Viking

Note to Self: If I'd known that the audience would be that picky .....
just as well that he didn't pick me up on the absence of footnotes and
references (especially after all the lies, er fake truths that I've told on
this thread so far).

Still, as I've always said, tell them a convincing story with confidence
and they'll believe you every time.

Note to Self: Avoid getting involved in an online philosophical discussion
with Bogan - and Katman ..... 8-)

It seems I did not explain that very well, the picky terminology is used to highlight the focus of the debate. For a conspiracy theory to be proven real, you would rely on and validate the basest evidence underpinning the theory; in this case it would be the physical evidence at ground zero, as this could show the conspiracy to be true or false. However, all too often such discussion is derailed by avoiding such evidence in favor of shotgunning theories about motivation, and behaviors after the fact; it does not matter at all if building standards were changed, because no outcome from that discussion would have any meaningful bearing on whether 911 was a conspiracy or not.

**Viking01** · 5th August 2017, 13:31

Originally Posted by bogan

It seems I did not explain that very well, the picky terminology is used to highlight the focus of the debate. For a conspiracy theory to be proven real, you would rely on and validate the basest evidence underpinning the theory; in this case it would be the physical evidence at ground zero, as this could show the conspiracy to be true or false. However, all too often such discussion is derailed by avoiding such evidence in favor of shotgunning theories about motivation, and behaviors after the fact; it does not matter at all if building standards were changed, because no outcome from that discussion would have any meaningful bearing on whether 911 was a conspiracy or not.

Hi,
Yes, you did explain yourself quite clearly the first time around, and I understood
and fully accepted your comments. No issue. It was just lazy use of terminology
on my part earlier.

I was just "pulling your chain" with the 'Notes to Self ' ..... 8-)

As you quite rightfully said, the comment about (lack of) change to building codes
post 911 is simply an interesting aside, and not relevant to the identification of
conspiracy.

Cheers,
Viking

**Voltaire** · 5th August 2017, 14:53

Originally Posted by Viking01

Morning. Interested to see your comments. Thanks.

Pearl Harbour

Ask yourself: Why does the US - now in 2017 - not just "cut its losses" and get out of
Afghanistan ?

Cheers,
Viking

The question I have been asking myself all day is " where did I put the breather reed valve for my Norton Commando.... I suspect foul play sir"

**Viking01** · 5th August 2017, 16:41

Originally Posted by Voltaire

The question I have been asking myself all day is " where did I put the breather reed valve for my Norton Commando.... I suspect foul play sir"

I share your sentiment. I suspect that once you have completed all your allotted
tasks for the day, it will magically become visible (or will be returned to the work
bench awaiting your discovery). Well, that's how things sometimes work in our
household ..... 8-)

Cheers,
Viking

**AllanB** · 5th August 2017, 18:07

That Labour leaders choppers are fake.

Mind you this is the first time in memory that a female leader of labour billboard's teeth actually match her real ones.

**oldrider** · 5th August 2017, 19:56

Originally Posted by AllanB

That Labour leaders choppers are fake.

Mind you this is the first time in memory that a female leader of labour billboard's teeth actually match her real ones.

The media can use those choppers and the lack of any outstanding alternatives to the status quo to promote a modest change in the political mix!

Consequentially it could mean a reshuffle of the (lucky dip) organisation that emerges and declares itself the (elected?) Government!

Elected by themselves!

**oldrider** · 7th August 2017, 22:23

THE DEEP STATE - 50 Year Old Recording Explains Why The World Is Going Crazy

Interesting and plausible explanation? - judge for yourself.

**Viking01** · 11th August 2017, 13:35

Afternoon,
I was just browsing the Scientific American website this morning
when I noted that it made reference to an article and a video
clip on the NY Times website regarding the latest Climate Change
report (Climate Change Assessment) that was supposedly "leaked"
by concerned scientists:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/07/c...ing-trump.html

What ? Fake news, surely ?. This couldn't be right, but indeed
strange things have happened.

On the NY Times website, indeed on the front page (though quite
well down), there was a short video clip. And it even knocked the
Russian meddling in the US election scandal off the front page.

And in the link shown above, there is even a window for online
display of the Climate Change Assessment report itself. How
helpful can you be ?

But just forget Climate Change for a moment, and concentrate on
more important things.

What is happening in the world ?

Has the NY Times been having problems with circulation volumes,
to the extent that it had to start mentioning forbidden subjects
such as CC ? Or have the Russians somehow managed to gain some
significant ownership share in the NY Times, and so change the
subject ?

It's noteworthy enough that the NY Times displays comment on CC
on their front page. Next, they'll be doing some follow-up articles
with easy digested interpretation for their US readership.

Update:

When I happened to check the Scientific American website again
a little later, there was a "correction", indicating that the report
had not been "leaked", but was being made available during a
"public comment" period - and that the White House had an
August 18 deadline for the issue of its review of the report.

That'll be interesting. But even so, given that the CC report is
some 650 pages, I'm not sure how Donald is going to manage
"tweeting" much of a reply.

The NY Times ? Who would have thought ?

I think that is enough "news" for me for the day. I think that
I'll take the afternoon off and read a book instead.

Cheers,
Viking

**oldrider** · 11th August 2017, 20:59

Interesting

- But why?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47573.htm (Congress gave26 standing ovations for Netanyahu - how did that happen?)

Is this the kind of behaviour that curries suggestion that America is little more than de facto Israeli occupied territory?

**Viking01** · 12th August 2017, 16:20

Would be interesting to know how they are classifying content before purging
(or de-monetising) items :

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/...oward-ww3.html

A short video clip plus a couple of links at the end of the article might also be
of interest.

Cheers,
Viking