The 2017 Election Thread

**Swoop** · 9th August 2017, 14:17

Originally Posted by YellowDog

It might be a great time to go on to benfit or three, like the guy whom won a Triathlon and climbed one of the tallest peaks in the world

I'll wait until Lunatic Fringe + Liarbour get voted in, then I will have no need for those pesky "actually looking like you are searching for a job" criteria.
Mt Everest, here we come! (well, maybe Mt Egmont).

**Katman** · 9th August 2017, 14:21

Originally Posted by Oakie

Some great irony floating around. The people who acted based out of principle have bought the party into disrepute ... but not the person who admitted benefit fraud and political 'fraud'(?).

Let's not forget John Key's electoral 'fraud' or Bill English's accommodation allowance 'fraud'.

And then of course, there's Paula Bennett's benefit fraud.

**Voltaire** · 9th August 2017, 14:51

Originally Posted by Katman

Let's not forget John Key's electoral 'fraud' or Bill English's accommodation allowance 'fraud'.

And then of course, there's Paula Bennett's benefit fraud.

Next there will be suggestions that the media are Pro National

**aprilia_RS250** · 9th August 2017, 15:15

Originally Posted by Katman

Let's not forget John Key's electoral 'fraud' or Bill English's accommodation allowance 'fraud'.

And then of course, there's Paula Bennett's benefit fraud.

Bill English accommodation fraud you mentioned wasn't fraud. It was on ministerial advice he was given, which after review was seen as , and he paid it back pretty much as soon as he got. It was within the rules.
John Key - he actually owned a house in the Hellensville area. Being loaded he was doing up his Parnell mansion. So lived in the "right" electorate.
Paula Bennett - has not been confirmed.

**Grumph** · 9th August 2017, 16:13

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Next there will be suggestions that the media are Pro National

The media are pro whichever party is in power - they know which side of their bread has the butter.

I find it interesting to look at the current top rank of National and wonder if, should they lose power, just how many of them will stay in opposition.
There's some pretty old faces well past their best-by dates in there. And a general odour of complacency.

**Banditbandit** · 9th August 2017, 16:38

People have also seemed to have forgotten Nandor Tanzcos - who admitted breaking the law by smoking cannabis ...

**bogan** · 9th August 2017, 17:57

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Next there will be suggestions that the media are Pro National

Originally Posted by Grumph

The media are pro whichever party is in power - they know which side of their bread has the butter.

I dunno, there's a lot going on about boring bill vs happy whatsername, I almost reckon the media is going red this year.

**Ocean1** · 9th August 2017, 19:18

Originally Posted by bogan

I dunno, there's a lot going on about boring bill vs happy whatsername, I almost reckon the media is going red this year.

From what little I've seen I like her style. What's her internal support base among party membership, caucus and unions?

Unfortunately style don't pay the bills, though, and their policies are the same old tax and spend shit.

**sidecar bob** · 9th August 2017, 19:26

Well thank fuck that's the end of Mary Tuesday. I didn't think Benifit fraud created any positive outcomes until today.

**Voltaire** · 9th August 2017, 19:26

Originally Posted by Ocean1

From what little I've seen I like her style. What's her internal support base among party membership, caucus and unions?

Unfortunately style don't pay the bills, though, and their policies are the same old tax and spend shit.

Oh come on....the Yanks thought their Election was a game show.

I'd suggest she buys a roll of black tape for Kelvin Davis...his mouth opens before his brain engages and was cringe worthy.

**bogan** · 9th August 2017, 19:28

Originally Posted by Ocean1

From what little I've seen I like her style. What's her internal support base among party membership, caucus and unions?

Unfortunately style don't pay the bills, though, and their policies are the same old tax and spend shit.

Not sure, it's early days yet I guess.

Oh how I wish that were so, but trump didn't get in on good policy...

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Well thank fuck that's the end of Mary Tuesday. I didn't think Benifit fraud created any positive outcomes until today.

Thank fuck for that!

**Ocean1** · 9th August 2017, 19:35

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Oh come on....the Yanks thought their Election was a game show.

I'd suggest she buys a roll of black tape for Kelvin Davis...his mouth opens before his brain engages and was cringe worthy.

Really? Didn't see that, was just wondering if I should be impressed at her returning some dignity to the institution. Or not.

**Ocean1** · 9th August 2017, 19:39

Originally Posted by bogan

Not sure, it's early days yet I guess.

Oh how I wish that were so, but trump didn't get in on good policy...

Thank fuck for that!

"Good" is such an intangible when it comes to public opinion.

I wonder if politics has always been about preconceptive bias and personalities, maybe it's just more obvious from a distance...

**Oakie** · 9th August 2017, 20:00

Originally Posted by Voltaire

I'd suggest she buys a roll of black tape for Kelvin Davis...his mouth opens before his brain engages and was cringe worthy.

Does seem to shoot from the hip but from something I saw the other morning I think perhaps it is scripted in advance and leaves his mouth at an opportune time. Still not sure the script won't get him in trouble at some point though. May go too far.