The 2017 Election Thread

[Woodman]

So there's no more reason for the state to charge anyone for it than there is for me to charge you for it.

But i wouldn't buy it off you, someon might, but I wouldn't and if someone doesn't want to buy water off NZ then they also don't have to buy it, but there will be someone who will so why the fuck not sell it. Its money for jam.
Its not just water that the end user is buying it is NZs clean green image bla bla bla which is definitely a marketable product that some effort and cost has gone into to produce.

[russd7]

No, it shouldn't, it's cost nobody anything to produce.

its a natural resource that is a saleable commodity so why not make these overseas corporations pay through the nose.

do you have large shares tied up in coca cola?

[Ocean1]

its a natural resource that is a saleable commodity so why not make these overseas corporations pay through the nose.

do you have large shares tied up in coca cola?

Because you don't own it. Which is usually a rather important factor when you're trying to sell shit.

No. What I do have is 28% of their profit, and an abiding respect for anyone that actually manages to produce anything at all in the face of a culture that sees that as less than an honorable endeavour.

[Oakie]

Interested to note that labour's new billboards, instead of the traditional red background, have an off-white background behind Jacinda. Trying to make her look clean and pure perhaps?

[Woodman]

Interested to note that labour's new billboards, instead of the traditional red background, have an off-white background behind Jacinda. Trying to make her look clean and pure perhaps?

Its to make her teeth look smaller.....

[oldrider]

Its to make her teeth look smaller.....

To the media she is a gift from god - "The Southern Tooth Fairy" - they are promoting her in to being the next Prime Minister - NZ's own Donald Trump?

[Doppleganger]

Looks like national have fucked up big time trying to get Winnie in the shit.
Played right into the hands of Labour.....looks like a change of government is on the cards even more now.

[Woodman]

Because you don't own it. Which is usually a rather important factor when you're trying to sell shit.

No. What I do have is 28% of their profit, and an abiding respect for anyone that actually manages to produce anything at all in the face of a culture that sees that as less than an honorable endeavour.

Fishing industry?

[Ocean1]

Fishing industry?

What about it?

[jasonu]

Its to make her teeth look smaller.....

It's not working.

[mashman]

What about it?

Fishing industry?

... Who owns the fish?

[Grumph]

... Who owns the fish?

OOh, OOh, Please sir, I know the answer to this one !!

WE DO - that's how we can licence a quota and monitor the catch...

And this differs from water, exactly how, children ?

[Woodman]

What about it?

What effort is required to grow the fish in the sea? None.
So by your theory anyone should be able to come into our waters and just take the fish because no effort was made to produce them.

[Ocean1]

What effort is required to grow the fish in the sea? None.
So by your theory anyone should be able to come into our waters and just take the fish because no effort was made to produce them.

Last time I looked fish don't fall on us in inconvenient quantities.

Good comparison though. And I have no problem at all with regulation via licencing. In fact I'd be extracting some slightly more serious concessions for the right to fish here.

But given that since we started charging an imperial shitload for various "joint venture" quota arrangements the quality of fish available here is shit, expensive enough that it's no longer on the menu for many kiwis, (and yet I can buy NZ snapper in Sydney cheaper than I can in Wellington and NZ crayfish in San Francisco cheaper than here) I think it's a great example of how NOT to manage a resource in the country's best interests.

[mashman]

OOh, OOh, Please sir, I know the answer to this one !!

WE DO - that's how we can licence a quota and monitor the catch...

And this differs from water, exactly how, children ?

heh heh heh... only when the last fish is sold will we realise that we can't eat money

We sell fish for money so that we can protect our fishery. Such an approach strikes me as somewhat odd. I guess there's always subsidy not to fish lol.