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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    running a socialist youth camp
    That alone should bar anyone from holding any form of power...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    That alone should bar anyone from holding any form of power...
    I looked into her a bit deeper last night (hadn't I better re-phrase that?) and there are surprisingly more areas to be concerned with. The one good point is that "supposedly" moving away from being a happy-clapping retard, she now claims to be agnostic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    People are infuriatingly stupid.......
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    So, not much has changed in NZ represented by KB then........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The one good point is that "supposedly" moving away from being a happy-clapping retard, she now claims to be agnostic...
    Least offensive position to take when some of your voter base give away 10% of their low wages to the local tax-free money collecting service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Least offensive position to take when some of your voter base give away 10% of their low wages to the local tax-free money collecting service.
    The aim of eliminating child poverty becomes almost unachievable, when the parents of the children are given the money and then decide there are better things to spend it on (smokes, pokies, destiny cult, etc).
    So many promises which will go unfulfilled, even with the best of intentions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The aim of eliminating child poverty becomes almost unachievable, when the parents of the children are given the money and then decide there are better things to spend it on (smokes, pokies, destiny cult, etc).
    So many promises which will go unfulfilled, even with the best of intentions.
    It became unachievable when they decided "poverty" was 60% of the medium income.

    The few children living in actual poverty in NZ, (based on the definition our parents used) are down to parental abuse.
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    I see Labour have learned their lesson after taking a bath in the polls last election on the back of the promise of a capital gains tax.

    They're going to be calling it a residential land tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I see Labour have learned their lesson after taking a bath in the polls last election on the back of the promise of a capital gains tax.

    They're going to be calling it a residential land tax.
    Well they can start by finding lodgings for all the people that will be chucked out of their rentals pending sale prior to the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Well they can start by finding lodgings for all the people that will be chucked out of their rentals pending sale prior to the election.
    Landlords should get more recognition for the public service they do.

    But I wonder if it were not for being able to leverage capital for the initial purchase, claim all expense's including interest on borrowings, rates, insurance, repairs,

    travel to inspect etc and after a few years selling the property for a nice tidy tax free profit would people still be as keen to offer said public service?

    If labour do introduce a CGT and investors have a big sell off I can then help my other Son into a property., save me waiting for the enevitable crash thats coming after the longest post war Wall St Bull run and larger debt than the GFC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Well they can start by finding lodgings for all the people that will be chucked out of their rentals pending sale prior to the election.
    Oh, apparently they're not limiting it to investment property, the family home is fair game too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Landlords should get more recognition for the public service they do.

    But I wonder if it were not for being able to leverage capital for the initial purchase, claim all expense's including interest on borrowings, rates, insurance, repairs,

    travel to inspect etc and after a few years selling the property for a nice tidy tax free profit would people still be as keen to offer said public service?

    If labour do introduce a CGT and investors have a big sell off I can then help my other Son into a property., save me waiting for the enevitable crash thats coming after the longest post war Wall St Bull run and larger debt than the GFC.
    There's only one reason most people rent: they can't afford to buy. So no matter how you cut it property owners that rent out those properties are supplying them for rents less than the cost to supply.

    The fact that they don't pay tax AGAIN on money used to maintain the asset in the process simply means that they're only taking a slightly less hideous loss while paying the mortgage and that any "profit" they make on the business is deferred until they sell it.

    So as Bob points out a sure fire way of completely fucking the social, (subsidised) housing stock is to either require landlords to pay tax a second time on maintenance costs and/or tax capital "gains", on the theory that all them rich pricks are getting something for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Landlords should get more recognition for the public service they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Oh, apparently they're not limiting it to investment property, the family home is fair game too.
    Surely gains on other forms of investment will also be included too, not just houses (boats, cars, bikes...)?

    The stunning silence on any detail from liarbour is staggering, but not unexpected. What fool would vote for them and then wait to find out "how" a method of taxation would be implemented? That really resembles oppression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Surely gains on other forms of investment will also be included too, not just houses (boats, cars, bikes...)?

    The stunning silence on any detail from liarbour is staggering, but not unexpected. What fool would vote for them and then wait to find out "how" a method of taxation would be implemented? That really resembles oppression.
    Most of my daughters 18 year old mates will, because A, they like Jacinda (seriously WTF) & B, they were all 9 years old last time there was a labour govt & really have no idea what the fuck they are doing in general.

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