The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

Why would I care? I'm not interested in petty identity based party political bullshit.

If I was there's no shortage of ammunition to lob at the current crop of socialists.

The RMA is shit policy, arsehole it.

Really you are not interested in identity politics as long as the "shit" ideas were not Nationals you mean.
the whole time you have been on KB you have never utttered a word in disagreement with National at all.
The RMA was created by National.
Its interesting that you have been so quiet since national started disintegrating.
Hows Nationals polling..........

It seems the majority dont agree with you sport.

[Ocean1]

Really you are not interested in identity as long as the shit ideas were not Nationals you mean.
The RMA was created by National.
Its interesting that you have been so quiet since national started disintegrating.
Hows Nationals leader polling..........

Why would I care? I'm not interested in petty identity based party political bullshit.

If I was there's no shortage of ammunition to lob at the current crop of socialists.

The RMA is shit policy, arsehole it.

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[husaberg]

Just ditch the RMA all together and be done with it ffs.

The RMA is shit policy, arsehole it.

Who created the "shit" RMA then?
i am betting you wont be able to bring yourself to name them......
I also see Nationals "strong leader" has taken to asking that the political commentators be kinder in writing about him in the media now.



Simon rated as being poor 61% vs great 7%
Jacinda rated great 68% vs Poor 5%

Why would I care? I'm not interested in petty identity based party political bullshit.
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Really

The labour party. Is owned. By the unions. They built it, directed it's internal structure and continue to hold voting rights over caucus appointments.

Did you not also read the bit about the fact that it was labour that initially flogged off a bunch of state houses and threw the problem at private investors.

The more labour change around here the more they stay the same.

It's called the Labour Party. They've scaled back the retail fucking up of workplaces, nowadays they concentrate on the wholesale side of fucking shit up.

Tell you what's scary as fuck, though, is all this talk from TOP, Labour and the Lunatics about wealth tax.
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[Swoop]

You might want to aquant yourself with the Housing Accords and Special Housing Areas Act 2013

Out of interest who do you think created the RMA

RMA was supposedly to help out CHCH. The new approach is country-wide.
As for the RMA, I have to agree that it is an utter crock of crap and needs to be repealed.

[husaberg]

RMA was supposedly to help out CHCH. The new approach is country-wide.
As for the RMA, I have to agree that it is an utter crock of crap and needs to be repealed.

RMA was to streamline the process well before the Earthquakes 1991. It was rushed through and ill-conceived all it did was put pressure on the councils as they had to suddenly come up with environmental policies.
Plus we have regional councils and district councils interpreting it differently here.
For instance i cleared 50 acres of native bush i didn't need a Resource consent as it was in the Grey District. A mate who lived a few KM's away in The Buller District had to fill in a 200 page consent and pay money wait 6 months just because he lived over the river from me. Not only that my neighbour wasn't allowed to clear any land at all anyehere on his 500 acres as he had been identified as potentially having a SNA or significant natural area on his property but the SNA area was also partly on my farm as well.
but because it wa mainly on his he got stopped from doing anything until an ecologist had been allowed to look at the potential SNA.

Also since the RMA was introduced district and regional councils over here have been arguing over whose responsibility it is to clean the drains and waterways so it consequently doesnt get done.
The idea of the RMA was fine in concept, except the councils shouldn't have needed to create the plans in the first place they just didnt have the resources or the money or expertise.
Not only that we have had cases here where doc and other government departments over ruled consents that were legally complaint with the RMA
The CHCH rush through not needing to comply with the RMA or other rules was just stupid.
This was called Housing Accords and Special Housing Areas Act 2013
As i pointed out we have development under Transpower lines that is illegal and bloody dangerous not to mention plain stupid.

[Ocean1]

So a clear majority of Kiwis are in favour of a capital gains tax.

But introducing one will lose you an election.

[TheDemonLord]

So a clear majority of Kiwis are in favour of a capital gains tax.

But introducing one will lose you an election.

2+2=5




(for especially large values of 2)

[husaberg]

Simons income vs cost difference becoming larger is not reflected by reality.

"It's becoming more expensive to get by, the Government is taking more of what you earn, and incomes aren't rising fast enough. The Government has more and you have less.

Unless of course he is figuring in ahousing crisis that his party for years has claimed did not even exist.

In his speech to Aucklanders at Parenting Place on Monday afternoon, Bridges promised not to introduce any new taxes during National's first term if elected in 2020.

As for the rest of his claims its pretty easy for him to promise this or that regarding the next election its pretty clear he wont be PM or even Nationals leader in a few months time let alone years.

[carbonhed]

Latest Colmar Brunton poll.

National 46%
Labour 43%
Greens 5%
Winston First 4%
Maori 1%
ACT 1%

Great to see Winston and the Greens driving their support to the edge of oblivion.

Jacinderella down to 39% in preferred PM. John Key at the same time in his administration was at 77% approval and rose to a peak of 81%. Cindy baayyybeee is less than half this level.

Can't wait for the Pike River clusterfuck to unravel for them!

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...angerously-low

[jasonu]

This guy has next NZ prime minister written all over him!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12170542

[husaberg]

Latest Colmar Brunton poll.

National 46%
Labour 43%
Greens 5%
Winston First 4%
Maori 1%
ACT 1%

Great to see Winston and the Greens driving their support to the edge of oblivion.

Jacinderella down to 39% in preferred PM. John Key at the same time in his administration was at 77% approval and rose to a peak of 81%. Cindy baayyybeee is less than half this level.

Can't wait for the Pike River clusterfuck to unravel for them!

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...angerously-low

So whats Simon Bridges polling........... you never mentioned Simon poll results

The latest poll also shows National leader Simon Bridges stagnating on seven per cent as preferred Prime Minister, while MP Judith Collins roses to a close six per cent.

[carbonhed]

So whats Simon Bridges polling........... you never mentioned Simon poll results

3.5 times as high as Helen Clark when she took over as leader of the Labour Party.

[RDJ]

Run out of popcorn. Gotta get some more in from Bagdown.

[husaberg]

3.5 times as high as Helen Clark when she took over as leader of the Labour Party.

no she was 5% simons never been above 10%
Only her results didnt ever go lower like simons have either.
Bridges has been leader of the nats for nearly a year but hes still going down in the ratings
the poll results then were skewed by both Jim andertons and Winston peters both being the prefered pm both were about 30%

oddly though unlike bridges Helen clark was highest polling preferred pm for 8 years she also rates higher as a PM than any of Nationals leader as well.

moore polled higher as leader of the opposition than bolger did as PM.
Simons a lame duck.Paula benefit has to much baggage (despite the gastic bypass) plus no one likes Crusher Collins either.
Tell me do you sincerly believe Bridges can become PM

[carbonhed]

She was on 2%.