The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

She was on 2%.

The same as Shipley when she was PM
Clarke support grew Simons support never has
English Bolger and Shipley and Brash all rated higher than Simon now does when national got rid of them as leader

[Swoop]

This guy has next NZ prime minister written all over him!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12170542

Fucking well hope not.
That retarded cunt should have been used in medical experiments.

[carbonhed]

The same as Shipley when she was PM
Clarke support grew Simons support never has
English Bolger and Shipley and Brash all rated higher than Simon now does when national got rid of them as leader

So I was right. She was on 2%.

Thanks.

[husaberg]

So I was right. She was on 2%.

Thanks.

When she was low her party was low not like Simon
She went up in the ratings Simon hasnt She was also the Pm for 9 years and rated the best pm ahead of any National leader do you honestly believe Simon will ever be Pm?

note Shearer and Cuniffe rated higher than Brigees too

[carbonhed]

When she was low her party was low not like Simon

Low? Low

What is this low you're talking about?

She was on 2%. You were wrong... just fucking admit it you whiny little bitch.

[Voltaire]

Those polls mean about as much as the Employee of the Month bullshit.

[oldrider]

Those polls mean about as much as the Employee of the Month bullshit.

Smoke and mirror material for those who have recorded highest achievement in employment? - "beneficiary"?

[Katman]

....just fucking admit it you whiny little bitch.

Seconded.

(And I see he has the moderators pandering to him again).

[husaberg]

Low? Low

What is this low you're talking about?

She was on 2%. You were wrong... just fucking admit it you whiny little bitch.

Latest Colmar Brunton poll.

National 46%
Labour 43%
Greens 5%
Winston First 4%
Maori 1%
ACT 1%

Great to see Winston and the Greens driving their support to the edge of oblivion.

Jacinderella down to 39% in preferred PM. John Key at the same time in his administration was at 77% approval and rose to a peak of 81%. Cindy baayyybeee is less than half this level.

Can't wait for the Pike River clusterfuck to unravel for them!

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...angerously-low

Lets see you take one figure of Helen clarkes immediately when see took over as labour leader and compare it to Bridges not as soon as he took over as leader but nearly a year after he became leader.
You then take a figure of Jacindas prefered pm and compare it to John key for the same time period, but not his preferred PM rating mind you, Instead you compare it to a different statistic entirely (preferred PM vs approval rating) and say look keys was 2 times higher.
Apples to apples at the same stage clarkes % as preferred pm was as i said 5%
Simon Bridges when he took over as National leader was actually rated 1% as preferred PM While Jacinda has never been below 30% since becoming labours leader.

Plus in prefered PM in feb 2010 ie about 15 months after the election in 2009 keys rating as preferred pm was 45% compared to Jacindas rating of 39% not as you tried to say 77% or twice Jacinda's rating using a different statistic.
So yeah whose really wrong here.

Another thing you seem to be oblivious of is Labours support since the election based on election results (according to that poll you posted) has increased from 36.9 to 43%
National on the other hand has only increased from 44.4 to 46%

National voters are still the minority thats why they never formed a government.

[carbonhed]

2% dude.

You were wrong and all the arm waving is just transparent bullshit.

People don't have ideologies, ideologies have people and you're a classic of the kind.

You've heard the meme about the NPC? At least you've got plenty of like minded buddies

[husaberg]

2% dude.

You were wrong and all the arm waving is just transparent bullshit.

People don't have ideologies, ideologies have people and you're a classic of the kind.

You've heard the meme about the NPC? At least you've got plenty of like minded buddies

Refer to post 3310.https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131117985
Answer it and show how right you are then............
While you try to come up with more excuses here is something else out of the colmar Brunton polls

2% feel more postitive about Simon Bridges due to his handling of the leaked expenses.
38% feel less positive
Whle 51% felt he was a buffoon prior to that so it made no difference

Oh cool fresh in today more National Caucus leaks
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/polit...nal-mp-bridges

Last week an anonymous message detailed internal polling showing the National Party on 41 percent and Labour on 44 percent.
That was not as flattering as a recent public poll and Mr Bridges refused to discuss it when speaking to reporters today.
"I'm not going to talk about internal polls, what we know is we've got a poll there that's public, that's 46 percent, that shows we've got momentum, you can understand there'll be speculation and rumours."
He was asked about the internal polling, putting his party 4 points lower at 41 percent.
"I don't talk about internal polls
Mr Bridges "did not accept" the leak came from one of his own MPs.

Sure it didnt come from inside National Simon we have already heard that one.

[carbonhed]

Post 3298 "3.5 times as high as Helen Clark when she took over as leader of the Labour Party."

Post 3300 "no she was 5% simons never been above 10%"

She was on 2% which your own graph shows quite clearly. So you were wrong.

You're right that I conflated Preferred PM and approval ratings. My bad.

[husaberg]

Post 3298 "3.5 times as high as Helen Clark when she took over as leader of the Labour Party."

Post 3300 "no she was 5% simons never been above 10%"

She was on 2% which your own graph shows quite clearly. So you were wrong.

Simon Bridges when he took over as Nationals leader was 1% as prefered PM
Helen Clark when she took over Labour was 2%.
1% is not 3.5 time higher than 2%.
While its true Clarke once rated 2% Simon at the same stage when he was made leader Rated 1%
As i clearly pointed out at the same stage of their leadership of their parties Helen rated 5% aginst 10% is not 3.5 times 5% either.
What you are trying to do is compare two different leader from two different time frames to attempt to give the impressions simons not doing so bad, when its clear his ratings are a epic disaster.
The fact his party is rating high while of his own ratings is embarrassingly low proves no one even National supporters believe he is up to the Job.
Nor can you say he is so lacking in support because hes new in the job because jacinda was an instant hit in the ratings.
In fact she actually rated higher as NZ prefered PM than simon currently does even before she was Labours leader. 10.5%

Simons ratings are a epic disaster i feel sorry for him.

[carbonhed]

What is Simons polling? 7%. 3.5 times as high as Helen Clarks when she took over the leadership of the Labour party. 2%.

That's it.

I'm not interested in engaging with the rest of your thoughts because you simply cannot engage with anybody else in an exchange of ideas. You persuade nobody. You don't impress anybody. You attempt to bludgeon everyone and no one's buying it.

[pritch]

for those who have recorded highest achievement in employment? - "beneficiary"?

It me. Yea!