The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

Well of course. History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.

Funny if only reality did not show otherwise

Panic of 1907 New York Stock exchange fell 43%
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep

The Great Depression 1929
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep,

Black Monday (1987) Wall Street Crash
Date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Dem, Dem, Dem

Financial crisis of 2007–2008
date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep Rep Rep Dem,
Congress Dem, Rep Rep Rep Rep

[Ocean1]

Funny if only reality did not show otherwise

Panic of 1907 New York Stock exchange fell 43%
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep

The Great Depression 1929
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep,

Black Monday (1987) Wall Street Crash
Date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Dem, Dem, Dem

Financial crisis of 2007–2008
date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep Rep Rep Dem,
Congress Dem, Rep Rep Rep Rep

Dude, nobody other than you lives in that particular "reality".

Thank fuck.

[husaberg]

Dude, nobody other than you lives in that particular "reality".

Thank fuck.

So the 4 biggest financial collapses i just posted were in your opion Socialists fault because were they otherwise you were talking out of your bumhole.
Which you clearly were

or are you saying you never said

History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.

[Murray]

8 months home detention.

Do you care to comment?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110...-home-resident

Do you take him out back and shoot him (either literally or metaphorically) or do you grant some form of leniency owing to it being (from all we know) a once off, isolated event?



In this case - yeah, the punishment does seem rather light - but consider the flipside - if we say first time offenders should get the book thrown at them, then I'm sure you (or someone similar) would find a case of some poor kid who committed a crime with a specific set of circumstances, but got an overly harsh sentance.

Point is - it's hard to come up with Principals and Policies that work for every situation, in theory that is why we have judges, to help with the Fringe cases - but they too are human and prone to error.

Does all that - justify tearing it down and replacing it with?

Hey Demonlord imagine its YOUR mother/grandmother. This is shit and he gets reduced sentence because he didnt have name suppression. What an absolute load of shit.YES take him out the back and shoot him!! Think what you would want if it was your family!

[TheDemonLord]

Hey Demonlord imagine its YOUR mother/grandmother. This is shit and he gets reduced sentence because he didnt have name suppression. What an absolute load of shit.YES take him out the back and shoot him!! Think what you would want if it was your family!

You miss the point I'm trying to make to Katman - A system which sticks rigidly to the rules is cold, ruthless and uncaring - just like in the example he initially posted.

A system with Leniency will be lenient towards those who don't deserve it. As in this case.

Both examples show a failing of the Justice system, but each one shows a failing on a different side. If we make it more unyielding, then cases such as the first one will occur with a higher frequency (and Katman will complain), If we make it more Lenient, then cases such as this one will occur with a higher frequeny (and Katman will complain).

The point is to show that what is needed more in one particular case, is the opposite to what is needed more in a different case - and that's a paradox that has yet to be solved.

[TheDemonLord]

I see our resident Marxist (just don't tell him that, he gets all pissy) has arrived to extol the virtue of a fantasy system that has never worked in any single implementation. Whilst simultaneously trying to critique the very system that gives him all the Freedoms and liberties he currently enjoys.

Also - relevent to this discussion.

[Ocean1]

So the 4 biggest financial collapses i just posted were in your opion Socialists fault because were they otherwise you were talking out of your bumhole.
Which you clearly were

or are you saying you never said

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

Market fluctuations aren't market failures, you only get failures when socialist fuckwits decide shit should be worth something other that what people will pay for it.

[roogazza]

our leader , (of many faces !!!! ).

[Katman]

Both examples show a failing of the Justice system, but each one shows a failing on a different side. If we make it more unyielding, then cases such as the first one will occur with a higher frequency (and Katman will complain), If we make it more Lenient, then cases such as this one will occur with a higher frequeny (and Katman will complain).

Both cases are examples of leniency granted to the guilty party - with disregard to the impact the crime has had on the victim.

[husaberg]

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

Market fluctuations aren't market failures, you only get failures when socialist fuckwits decide shit should be worth something other that what people will pay for it.

Well of course. History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.

Funny if only reality did not show otherwise

Panic of 1907 New York Stock exchange fell 43%
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep

The Great Depression 1929
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep,

Black Monday (1987) Wall Street Crash
Date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Dem, Dem, Dem

Financial crisis of 2007–2008
date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep Rep Rep Dem,
Congress Dem, Rep Rep Rep Rep

you are full of it you posted crap and you were caught out posting crap.
So man up or slink off.

[Swoop]

Socialists are capitalists, who knew.

Yup.
The higher up the ladder a socialist goes in a "socialist environment", the more he becomes a capitalist.

All capitalists are parasites...

No, all humans are parasites.

[Ocean1]

you are full of it you posted crap and you were caught out posting crap.
So man up or slink off.

No, we already did this bit. See:

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

You going to answer the question, there?

[mashman]

Yup.
The higher up the ladder a socialist goes in a "socialist environment", the more he becomes a capitalist.

No, all humans are parasites.

Hardly surprising given that the world revolves around capitalism, especially the higher up you go. Even communists are capitalists.

No, plenty of humans are part of a symbiotic ecosystem, not all... and given the choice, when faced with the Earth Overshoot evidence, even the hardcore capitalist realises that they have to yield if there is to be a future... well, the hard core capitalist who isn't rote learned that is.

[husaberg]

No, we already did this bit. See:



You going to answer the question, there?

Answer what question you are making out i said stuff i clearly never did
Which would be funny if at the same time you weren't denying you made up shit aposted it and got caught out.
Kb already has one Katman thry don't really need another one

Well of course. History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.

Funny if only reality did not show otherwise

Panic of 1907 New York Stock exchange fell 43%
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep

The Great Depression 1929
Date plus 3 terms prior
President Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep,

Black Monday (1987) Wall Street Crash
Date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep, Rep, Rep, Rep
Congress Dem, Dem, Dem, Dem

Financial crisis of 2007–2008
date plus 3 terms prior
President during Rep Rep, Rep, Rep
Senate Dem, Rep Rep Rep Dem,
Congress Dem, Rep Rep Rep Rep

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?
.

i have clearly never said anything at all other than the post that shows you are 100% full of it, in stating every economic collapse is caused by socialists.

[Ocean1]

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

you are full of it you posted crap and you were caught out posting crap.
So man up or slink off.

No, we already did this bit. See:

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

You going to answer the question, there?

Answer what question you are making out i said stuff i clearly never did

One last time:

Are you saying the recoveries after those events was a reflection of the success of capitalism?

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