The 2017 Election Thread

[jasonu]

Simon Bridges showing the size of the one that got away during a recent fishing trip.
The story is pretty cool too!
https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/20068...insulting.html

Simon bridges is a tool and national will loose the next election unless they get rid of him PDQ.

[sidecar bob]

Oh dear.
https://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/20681...r-resigns.html
But National but National.

[Scubbo]

NZTA the most fucken useless unaccountable unskilled nepotistic filled pile of shit holding NZ back --- procurement division and all heads of departments need to be axed and/or the whole thing scuttled.

[Ocean1]

NZTA the most fucken useless unaccountable unskilled nepotistic filled pile of shit holding NZ back --- procurement division and all heads of departments need to be axed and/or the whole thing scuttled.

Which is pretty much what the watermelon flavoured branch of the winston first govt has in mind anyway, of course.

Roads bad, treadlies good, see? And fuck your two hour daily commute.

[sidecar bob]

Which is pretty much what the watermelon flavoured branch of the winston first govt has in mind anyway, of course.

Roads bad, treadlies good, see? And fuck your two hour daily commute.

I can't understand why scooters & small motorcycles aren't getting a few breaks, like $40 a year rego & other govt perks to make them an attractive option.
They would reduce congestion, lower fuel use, cause less damage to infrastructure, free up a heap of car parks to name a few.

[Grumph]

I can't understand why scooters & small motorcycles aren't getting a few breaks, like $40 a year rego & other govt perks to make them an attractive option.
They would reduce congestion, lower fuel use, cause less damage to infrastructure, free up a heap of car parks to name a few.

Try talking to your MP. Someone posted a Wgtn Council rationale for reducing bike parks - They're inherently unsafe and we won't encourage them....
Sadly until we get a few more riders into Parliament, that looks like the line from all parties.

My local ZX10 owning labour candidate is working quietly behind the scenes though. But he's pushing shit uphill.
Where are the mass protests ?

[Ocean1]

I can't understand why scooters & small motorcycles aren't getting a few breaks, like $40 a year rego & other govt perks to make them an attractive option.
They would reduce congestion, lower fuel use, cause less damage to infrastructure, free up a heap of car parks to name a few.

'Cause they're not tredlies or trains. It really is that simple, ideological imperatives at that level completely trump any logical cost/benefit analysis you can offer, they're simply not capable of hearing it.

[sidecar bob]

'Cause they're not tredlies or trains. It really is that simple, ideological imperatives at that level completely trump any logical cost/benefit analysis you can offer, they're simply not capable of hearing it.

Well if they charged $40 per year rego, it's $40 they would get off me that they aren't getting at the moment.

[Ocean1]

Try talking to your MP. Someone posted a Wgtn Council rationale for reducing bike parks - They're inherently unsafe and we won't encourage them....
Sadly until we get a few more riders into Parliament, that looks like the line from all parties.

Yep, always seems like the productive sector is too busy to get involved in local politics, which usually leaves decisions like that up to useless pricks that couldn't survive out in the real world where such decisions would result in them going hungry. Predictable results are predictable.

Where are the mass protests ?

21st November next year I believe.

[Ocean1]

Well if they charged $40 per year rego, it's $40 they would get off me that they aren't getting at the moment.

Ideological imperatives at that level completely trump any logical cost/benefit analysis you can offer, they're simply not capable of hearing it.

Or haven't you noticed that the winston first govt is finding it difficult to produce the results they promised? Even without the extra billion on foreign policy initiatives and the extra billion for provincial vote buying there simply isn't enough public cash available to cure problems caused by individuals. Never will be.

[Voltaire]

I can't understand why scooters & small motorcycles aren't getting a few breaks, like $40 a year rego & other govt perks to make them an attractive option.
They would reduce congestion, lower fuel use, cause less damage to infrastructure, free up a heap of car parks to name a few.

If the feedback on ACC Lime Scooter use is anything to go by I'm not sure the general public are that good on two wheels.
I ride my Vespa into town about 2 times a week, takes 30 mins ( thanks to bus lanes) Vs an hour catching the train, which so far compared to my 5 years in London is virtually empty.
Bike parking in the city is fully used and mostly gone by 7:30 AM.
Remove more car spaces.

[buggerit]

I can't understand why scooters & small motorcycles aren't getting a few breaks, like $40 a year rego & other govt perks to make them an attractive option.
They would reduce congestion, lower fuel use, cause less damage to infrastructure, free up a heap of car parks to name a few.

I saw a stat where they said that if they had 10 percent of Aucklands commuters were on motorbikes it would reduce congestion
by 40 percent.Unfortunately common sense is as scarce as successful business persons(that stay) on most councils .

[sidecar bob]

If the feedback on ACC Lime Scooter use is anything to go by I'm not sure the general public are that good on two wheels.

I had a go on Lime scooter a few months ago on the Auckland waterfront.
I wouldn't have liked to have any less skill on two wheels, they're an accident waiting to happen & a damn site more scary than the ZX10r NZSBK bike I rode at Taupo last weekend.

[Scubbo]

definitely agree on cheaper scooter rego / 125-250 rego so that motorway travel is possible -- would solve a lot of congestion not only on roads but in parking, I can see a lot more trips to A&E but the man-hour savings / cost benefits on wear would well outweigh any increase -- also keep a lot more stealerships in good stead with servicing --- and the environment/social impact is far less vs amount of materials required to make a car with the slave labour mining used for raw materials such as rare-earths which are the dodgiest & dirtiest industry in the world that is NEEDED for anything EV

[sidecar bob]

definitely agree on cheaper scooter rego / 125-250 rego so that motorway travel is possible -- would solve a lot of congestion not only on roads but in parking, I can see a lot more trips to A&E but the man-hour savings / cost benefits on wear would well outweigh any increase -- also keep a lot more stealerships in good stead with servicing --- and the environment/social impact is far less vs amount of materials required to make a car with the slave labour mining used for raw materials such as rare-earths which are the dodgiest & dirtiest industry in the world that is NEEDED for anything EV

You only have to look at India, Veitnam, Malaysia, etc, if everybody on small motorcycles in those countries drove a car the countries would cease to move.