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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You've been misled. There were no WIC regulations regarding work practises. There were however awards relating to the work done which were negotiated between the union and the combined shipping companies. The WIC had no part in enforcing these, it was entirely up to the union delegate and the company foreman.

    To re-emphasise, the WIC was not the watersiders union - and didn't speak for them. Calling the waterside workforce WIC staff is totally wrong. Both legally - and in operational practise. I'd suspect that your information came from a shipping company rep. In some ports they were working actively to undercut the WIC with the ultimately successful aim of removing it. We saw a little of this in Lyttelton - but Bob Scott (yes, the all black) the local port Conciliation Committe chair kept most of it under control.
    Oh I've got no doubt at all I was attempted to be misled. I've also no doubt it was the workers in question on site universally referred to as WIC workers doing most of the misleading.

    You can deny responsibility for them until the cows come home, god knows everyone else in the industry did, but they were nonetheless considered by most unaligned observers to be the root cause of pretty much all of the problems on the waterfront. And that, in a nutshell was the problem, they refused to be held responsible for anything at all, by anyone whatsoever. You could argue that's why the WIC was instituted in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12238228
    What a circus. Anyone defending these morons is an even bigger moron. Even Husatwerp isn't coming to the tooth monsters defense.
    Lets go Brandon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12238228
    What a circus. Anyone defending these morons is an even bigger moron. Even Husatwerp isn't coming to the tooth monsters defense.

    The same people are prepared to make statements about their own male staffers calling them rapists without a shred of evidence and then fire them for the same thing. If you people are only just now figuring out we have a bunch of maoists running this country I dont know what else to say... And the Nats arent much better!!

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...c-_Q1x_uo5r2Mc


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    Is that Winston's Iwi fishing mates I see in the background, there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    @finger pointing v's what's best for the economy i.e. the resources coz they turn into money to pay for pay rises n the likes in an economy that's only ever getting more expensive and more intensely shafted by the very same activity that needs to take place in order to pay for the pay rises n the likes. Catch-22... Nah, just plain old stupidity in action. As you were.
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    The Mad Queen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by austingtir View Post
    If you people are only just now figuring out we have a bunch of maoists running this country I dont know what else to say..
    Excellent news.



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    "Policy reset"?

    Menaing the totally bullshit, unobtainable target these cunts misled the public with, will be "re-invented" to something more achievable? Doubtful, at best.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12239852
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    "Policy reset"?

    Menaing the totally bullshit, unobtainable target these cunts misled the public with, will be "re-invented" to something more achievable? Doubtful, at best.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12239852
    Just to prove you are not just attempting to hold two parties to two different sets of what is acceptable.
    National sold of 10,000 state houses in a housing crisis still they claimed never existed?
    FFS they were trying to get rid of 2500 more in Chch before the election.
    they were selling off thousands of state houses while they rented motel rooms as emergency homes for the poor. Nice one
    they never built more state homes with the money.they used that to clean the thousands of houses they claimed were P damaged, which was utter rubbish and a total wate of tax payer money.
    why was it In 2016, 46% of mortgages were issued to property investors/speculators in the Auckland region?



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Just to prove you are not just attempting to hold two parties to two different sets of what is acceptable.
    Acceptable to you?

    Only, the hated Tories actually said they were going to encourage private investment in housing, partly by selling a bunch of older public housing assets in dire need of maintenance to exactly those private investors. And that'e exactly what they did. It even did what it said on the label: provided more houses, the fact that it nicely relieved the taxpayer of the obscene and rapidly growing maintenance and ongoing ownership costs was a bonus.

    The Marxists called that a failure and promised that they'd provide more housing. Only it's become obvious that their need to retain the regulatory and monopolistic cluster-fuck that is the NZ house building industry is more important to their ideals, and anyone merely wanting a reasonably priced hose can just fuck right off.

    Face it, it was an ill advised and cynical election stunt, preying on gullible idiots that think "the govt" is better at supplying houses than anyone spending their own hard earned money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    why was it In 2016, 46% of mortgages were issued to property investors/speculators in the Auckland region?
    Because we have voted for successive governments that think its a good idea to follow marxist UN mandates and bring in 80000+ immigrants to the country each year. These included wealthy chinese speculators with zero stopping them from land banking all over the show using chinese money at absurdly cheap interest rates (the chinese government is not stupid).

    And these same people think our housing, health, roading and general societal norms wont change a bit when you bring in people from all over the shop and expect things to go smoothly.

    The potential is there to change the demographics of NZ by 1 fifth in less than 10 YEARS!!!! If we stay on the present course which we've already been doing for atleast 8 or more.....



    Again Vote NEW CONSERVATIVE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
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    nice avoidance of the facts



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