The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

You haven't answered, I've asked for a yes or now answer as to wether you think dumping kiwi build is a fuck up.
If you can quote me where you have done that I'll accept that you have answered.
What's so hard about that?
You've come up with some irrelevant "counter dirt" but while you can shout from the rooftops that you have answered me, you haven't.
I'm not a complex bloke, yes or no will be fine.

okay then, yes or no then, because if you are going to pretend i never answered when its clear i did. Pick your own answer and run with it.

either answer could be the new leader of the National party, both have already got a greater following than Simon Bridges. but i degress.

Lets refresh..........

So you're perfectly cool with them taking the policy they harvested the most votes from & going, fuck it, it's too hard & chucking it out the window?
I don't want a bunch of rhetoric, just want to know if you're fine with it so I can come to my own conclusions.

Maybe you should ask how many of the people that voted for labour did so because of anything to do with Kiwi-build..

Democracy is about having policies that harvest the most votes. Its kind of the point of it.
That policy wasn't what got them in, but selling off all the houses and saying its to build more when they never did was what got the nats out, that along with hundreds of other broken promises
But you can always tell when someone is attempting to buy their way in they will promise tax cuts then pay for them with borrowing. Leaving the bill for future generations to pay for them.

Here is a hint, i clearly couldn't give a shit if the targets are reached. bit that it was attempted rather then the opposite of saying they would do one thing then doing the reverse, Kiwibuild wasn't a cornerstone of the election, The only people that are now desperately grasping onto it are the one that are desperate to get any form of traction or create a diversion away for the train wreak figures that tell the tale of the National leadership. .

You say you want A yes or Now answer, that's a new one.
iN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST 5 TIMES IT WAS POSTED i answered already i don't give a shit, it wasn't a cornerstone election platform i dont know how many times i can say it, or how many other ways i can say it.
I don't give a shit it wasn't a cornerstone election platform.
Ps what does a castrated Sheep have to do with it. Are they in the running to be the new national party leader

[Swoop]

I've asked for a yes or now answer as to wether you think dumping kiwi build is a fuck up.

The Liarbour morons haven't dumped kiwibuild (yet), just removed that nasty bit about performance standards that they promised the gullible public, they'd meet.
Now they just have to do "something", at some stage in the non-defined future... or maybe not. They don't really know and will just make up something - after they worm their way out of the multiple other disasters they have created.

[husaberg]

lets see

in the first 4 years of the Last Natzi goverment
they had Had increased debt as a percentage of GDP from 9.1 per cent in 2009 to 24.6 per cent in 2016.
In dollar terms They doubled the national debt each year in the first 4 years alone.
On top of that. The average kiwi had a 40% reduction in disposable income during the national governments term.

Your beloved Natzis presided over the death of a SOE and the dismemberment of all it mineral leases for a penitence of their true value.
They lost all this money despite the sale of 4.7 billion dollars of state assets.
Natzis also for the entire 9 years stopped contributing to NZ's super fund
Yet the best thing you turkeys can find to moan about is not enough houses being built by the new crowd.

[jasonu]

The Liarbour morons haven't dumped kiwibuild (yet), just removed that nasty bit about performance standards that they promised the gullible public, they'd meet.
Now they just have to do "something", at some stage in the non-defined future... or maybe not. They don't really know and will just make up something - after they worm their way out of the multiple other disasters they have created.

Yep and now they can build no houses and say goal met (because there is now no goal) I know NZ has its share of thick cunts but you would have to be special thick to swallow this shit.

Doesn't matter for much longer. The last election saw a lot of people protest vote (against National) for the minor parties which had the unexpected effect of handing the win to Labour via Winston. That won't happen in 2020.

[Laava]

Simon Bridges is doing a great job campaigning for Labour!

[oldrider]

The Liarbour morons haven't dumped kiwibuild (yet), just removed that nasty bit about performance standards that they promised the gullible public, they'd meet.
Now they just have to do "something", at some stage in the non-defined future... or maybe not. They don't really know and will just make up something - after they worm their way out of the multiple other disasters they have created.

Yep and now they can build no houses and say goal met (because there is now no goal) I know NZ has its share of thick cunts but you would have to be special thick to swallow this shit.

Doesn't matter for much longer. The last election saw a lot of people protest vote (against National) for the minor parties which had the unexpected effect of handing the win to Labour via Winston. That won't happen in 2020.

While all this may be true - how much difference to the well-being and satisfaction of the electorate would there be if the result went either way? -

[TheDemonLord]

lets see

in the first 4 years of the Last Natzi goverment
they had Had increased debt as a percentage of GDP from 9.1 per cent in 2009 to 24.6 per cent in 2016.
In dollar terms They doubled the national debt each year in the first 4 years alone.
On top of that. The average kiwi had a 40% reduction in disposable income during the national governments term.

Your beloved Natzis presided over the death of a SOE and the dismemberment of all it mineral leases for a penitence of their true value.
They lost all this money despite the sale of 4.7 billion dollars of state assets.
Natzis also for the entire 9 years stopped contributing to NZ's super fund
Yet the best thing you turkeys can find to moan about is not enough houses being built by the new crowd.

Might have something to do with a Global Recession (which NZ faired very well in).
Might have something to do with Labour building up a 'surplus' that was all Smoke and Mirrors.
Might have something to do with Labour not investing in Infrastructure for 9 years prior.

But let's not admit to any degree of culpability, it's all clearly Nationals fault.

Also - Godwin.

[sidecar bob]

Picking on someone's typo, the last resort of the desperate.
Over promising & under delivering is usually the forte of inexpierenced rookie tradies.
Observing this lot, would you put any one of them in charge of a business you owned?
It's a bit like the "if Harley made a plane would you fly in it"
I also had the tilted head, sympathetic interested look I would trot out in business, but at least I had the topic knowledge & the physical ability to fix the problem, Jacinda's isint fooling many with that one. And for chrissakes it's T, not D, its Opportunities not oppatuniddys etc, fucking peasant.

[Banditbandit]

Here we go - this is what large donations buys you - a mouthpiece ..

Simon Bridges praising Communist China ...


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...DPxuxmfXBK_wYI


There's something deeply strange about a Right party praising a Communist Country ..

I think Communist China has got its money's worth ..

[husaberg]

Picking on someone's typo, the last resort of the desperate.
Over promising & under delivering is usually the forte of inexpierenced rookie tradies.
Observing this lot, would you put any one of them in charge of a business you owned?
It's a bit like the "if Harley made a plane would you fly in it"
I also had the tilted head, sympathetic interested look I would trot out in business, but at least I had the topic knowledge & the physical ability to fix the problem, Jacinda's isint fooling many with that one. And for chrissakes it's T, not D, its Opportunities not oppatuniddys etc, fucking peasant.

Come on Bob ewe dont need be sheepish, it was a multiple mistake you made multiple times.
Plus there was those repeated claims i never answered your question, when clearly did.
As for run my business, no but i wouldn't, but i wouldnt trust neither any of the other crowds either.
With politicians You just make the best of a bad situation.
You stay right i stay left and hopefully the country trods a path somewhere near the middle.
I am glad you are talking about the Labour leader though it must tbe a pleasant distraction from the continued the national leadership woes.

If you going to mention peoples diction grab a load of what comes out of Semen Bur-Ridges mouth.
The Politician who is by his own admission afraid of door handles.

[oldrider]

Here we go - this is what large donations buys you - a mouthpiece ..

Simon Bridges praising Communist China ...


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...DPxuxmfXBK_wYI


There's something deeply strange about a Right party praising a Communist Country ..

I think Communist China has got its money's worth ..

You sure that it is not "Capitalist" China these days? (Not withstanding Dictatorship of course?)

[Ocean1]

it's all clearly Nationals fault.

....but he doesn't give a shit.

[Ocean1]

Observing this lot, would you put any one of them in charge of a business you owned?

He doesn't give a shit.

He's wildly and rabidly defensive for someone that doesn't give a shit, but then the shit he's not giving might not be a very big one.

[husaberg]

....but he doesn't give a shit.

He doesn't give a shit.

He's wildly and rabidly defensive for someone that doesn't give a shit, but then the shit he's not giving might not be a very big one.

Maybe if you actually read what I wrote you would see i dont give a shit about "kiwi-build targets".
Don't go confusing me an bob discussing stuff with any sort of malace between us. Bob is a decent bloke for a tory.
Rabidly defensive pah,I only reply to these hypocritical moans of your ilk. But i guess when you have nothing at all positive in your life your lot will just moan about anything.

[TheDemonLord]

Maybe if you actually read what I wrote you would see i dont give a shit about "kiwi-build targets".
Bob on the other hand is a decent bloke for a tory, dont ever confuse me an dbob discussing stuff with any sort of malace. you however i doubt i woultdurinate on if you were combusting.
I only reply to these hypocritical moans.

Democracy!
Will of the People!
80% support!

But Election promises - nah, I don't give a shit about that.....

Good to see Consistency eh....