The 2017 Election Thread

[Ocean1]

Suppose it comes down to what sources are?

I prefer the Herald one at 60% of houses sold went to Chinese investors and who can blame them with NZ being a soft touch and interest rates being so low.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11636711

Nearly 60 per cent of Auckland houses sold to foreign buyers went to Chinese investors.

I have no idea how he figured they were investors rather than, say parents buying their immigrant kids a house.

And in fact the very same article...

Across all of New Zealand, 3 per cent of houses sold between January and March went to people who were not New Zealand citizens

So the sources are obviously less important than how they're interpreted.

Edit: and I doubt any of those Chinese "investors" would have been borrowing anything whatsoever, it's simply not how they do business, and certainly not from NZ/Aus banks.

[Woodman]

Depressing to see Winnie's xenophobic rants finding such fertile ground in a country where every one of us are recent immigrants.

This is something that so called "real kiwis" tend to forget.

[sidecar bob]

Incidentally Jacinda, the letter T is not prononounced as D you fucking peasant.

[Grumph]

Incidentally Jacinda, the letter T is not prononounced as D you fucking peasant.

Was she in Dauranga today ? I saw the National bus going the other way on my way to town today - I kept going my way.

[Ocean1]

Dear Jacinda,

I’ve seen you on the telly, dear,
There’s quite a hullabaloo,
But taxing this and taxing that
Means my two ticks stay BLUE

You’ll tax us on our assets
There’s nothing you won’t snatch
You’ll tax us on our holidays
You’ll tax the boat or bach

You’ve said you’ll slap a tax on fuel
So when I need the car
I can’t afford to fill it up
I won’t get very far!

You’ll tax water by the litre
And our farms will hit the wall
Have you forgotten it’s the farmers
Who grow food to feed us all?

You’ve said you’ll tax emissions,
Does that mean mine as well?
If I can’t afford to fart, my dear,
Your tax can go to hell!

You’ll tax us on the things we own
Is nothing off the table?
I dread to think what else you’ll tax
As soon as you are able

I’m told you want a ‘gift’ tax
So the bit I’ve got put by
I can’t give to my grand-kids?
They can kiss my gift good-bye?

You’ll take the joy from giving
And even when I’m dead
You’ll slap me with Inheritance tax
Or take my house instead

Taxing the shit out of all of us
Is just not very nice
And I’m hoping at the polls, my dear,
The Left will pay the price

Truth to tell, Taxinda,
I think you’ve lost the plot
You’ll not get my vote, sweetheart,
My ‘comrade’ you are not!

So thank you for reading my letter,
I’ve got things off my chest
Just leave it up to National, dear…
They really do know best.

So I’ll vote for Mr English
And his team - they’ll get it right!
A pretty smile is not enough
Goodnight, Ms Ardern…….Goodnight

Stolen from Val Davis.

[pete376403]

Dear Jacinda,

....stuff...

Stolen from Val Davis.

Or there is this: (we know all about item 10)

[Ocean1]

Or there is this: (we know all about item 10)

Pah, compared to Juicinda the man's a fucking amateur.

[AllanB]

Incidentally Jacinda, the letter T is not pronounced as D you fucking peasant.

Mate - that's not fair picking on the disabled. Her top lip does not fit her new teeth.

Mind you I wish Bill on his $450k annual income would get some oral work done.

[Doppleganger]

I hope Labour get in, they can take $20,- $40 out of my weekly wage as long as they give it to education, housing and health care.

Fucking over the haves V's have nots and the sickening evidence of greed creeping into our society.
A school teacher or a nurse cant afford to live in our biggest city anymore. People that don't even live here outbidding each other to buy homes to charge massive rents to Kiwis!!

National rock up after taxing the fuck out of us for the last nine years and bang on about Labours plans what a fukin joke
Add to that selling off our assets, cutting massive chunks out of education and health care budgets but letting huge corporations get away with little or no tax.

[T.W.R]

Mate - that's not fair picking on the disabled. Her top lip does not fit her new teeth.

Mind you I wish Bill on his $450k annual income would get some oral work done.

bet you're no fuckin oil painting either eh Fabio?

[Grumph]

I hope Labour get in, they can take $20,- $40 out of my weekly wage as long as they give it to education, housing and health care.

Fucking over the haves V's have nots and the sickening evidence of greed creeping into our society.
A school teacher or a nurse cant afford to live in our biggest city anymore. People that don't even live here outbidding each other to buy homes to charge massive rents to Kiwis!!

National rock up after taxing the fuck out of us for the last nine years and bang on about Labours plans what a fukin joke
Add to that selling off our assets, cutting massive chunks out of education and health care budgets but letting huge corporations get away with little or no tax.

I'm picking you may have watched the Brian Brake doco the other night "Who owns NZ"
Well researched and put together. Pity it's not compulsory viewing for politicians....

[Voltaire]

I'm picking you may have watched the Brian Brake doco the other night "Who owns NZ"
Well researched and put together. Pity it's not compulsory viewing for politicians....

Reading the Herald review didn't sound like there were lots of facts, just getting money of NZ on Air

Yet such international solutions to our housing issues are foregone in favour of race-baiting and a Bruce family history.

That self-involvement is understandable. Who Owns New Zealand Now? was written, directed, produced and line-edited by one man: Bryan Bruce - whose production company Red Sky has been NZ on Air-funded 18 times in 18 years, totalling just shy of $4.5m.

Among those have been titles of merit and importance - but this is not one of them. Instead it's an indulgent, cheaply-made and presented travelogue with through lines of old-fashioned nostalgia and scaremongering. It should not have been made.

I think that in the end all the wealth is going to be in the hands of the few and the rest of us will just be wage slaves to pay off junk they peddle and overpriced houses.

[Grumph]

Reading the Herald review didn't sound like there were lots of facts, just getting money of NZ on Air

I'd suggest the writer of that had an axe to grind. Watch it and see for yourself.

[Voltaire]

I'd suggest the writer of that had an axe to grind. Watch it and see for yourself.

I watched " Why are we fat", one depressing doc a week is enough

Don't they all have a barrow to push along?

I was living in Ireland ( 2002- 04) during the Celtic Tiger, was on about 60K NZ with a brand new company VW Passat ( Refrigeration Sales) and everyone was

spending like there was no

tomorrow. I remember a work mate who said about Galway " If its got a roof its worth 180K Euro"... Kids of 10 were getting mobile phones for their First Holy

Communion, people were buying holiday homes in Europe, going on overseas trips, buying cars, rental properties, going out every night drinking.......

Gee whiz....it was all fueled on debt.

[Ocean1]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...-working-group

"The party has been under sustained pressure from the Government and the media to clarify exactly what its taxation working group, which they are setting up to combat the housing crisis, will be looking at."

Here's what's got me: In attempting to reduce the cost of homes why are they looking at taxing them?