The 2017 Election Thread

[jasonu]

Possibly the beginnings of yet another amateur hour Labour scandal?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12291430

[TheDemonLord]

Possibly the beginnings of yet another amateur hour Labour scandal?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12291430

And he's decided not to resign because reasons? Just like Nash, Just like Twyford

Apparently this is the 'new way of doing things' that Labour were talking about, which curiously looks an awful lot like the old way of doing things for a Corrupt bunch of Socialists.

[Katman]

Apparently this is the 'new way of doing things' that Labour were talking about, which curiously looks an awful lot like the old way of doing things for a Corrupt bunch of Socialists.

It actually looks no different to the way any government seems to do business.

[husaberg]

2018 Ross alleged during a live press conference that Bridges was a corrupt politician who had violated electoral law several times, including accepting an illegal NZ$100,000 donation from Chinese businessman Zhang Yikun.
after Bridges denied it a tape recording was released. In which Bridges was heard to weight up the cost of buying an list MP positions with donations

In August 2015, Michael Woodhouse the last National imigration minister caused controversy when he released a list of 57 high risk industries for his Health an Safety Reform Bill. This list was mocked by the Opposition because worm farming and mini golf were deemed "high risk", while dairy and cattle farming were not., Iain Lees-Galloway, said Woodhouse "can’t worm his way out of this. He will be forever ridiculed as the Minister who made killer worm farms safer but failed to protect people working in some of New Zealand's most dangerous industries.

June 2015
National MP Todd Barclay is accused of making a clandestine recording of Glenys Dickson, one of his staff, To cover up this scandle Bill English offering her a hush payment from former Prime Minister John Key's leader's budget. Bill english lies that he was unaware of the situation but is forced to back track when its later revealed he send hundreds of test messages to Glenys about the subject.

June 2014 ACT Party leader John Banks is convicted of filing a false electoral return in 2010, recording donations known to come from Kim Dotcom as anonymous.

September:2010 ACT Party Member David Garrett, the primary party advocate on tougher sentences and ending name suppression in ongoing court cases, admits stealing the identity of a dead infant for the purpose of obtaining a passport 26 years prior.

In 2006, Coleman (then the National Party's associate health spokesman) As well as its immigration minister caused controversy when he accepted British American Tobacco's – an active lobbier on health sector issues – offer of sitting in their corporate box during a U2 concert. It was alleged he blew cigar smoke at a woman during the concert.

August: ACT Party MP Donna Awatere Huata is convicted on fraud charges involving a trust set up to help underprivileged Maori children
Bill Birch


Tuariki Delamere In late 1999, however, he lost his role as Minister of Immigration after a scandal regarding the application of immigration rules. Specifically, it emerged that Delamere had approved permanent residency for a group of Chinese businessmen provided they invested generously in various Māori development schemes. Delamere was widely criticised for using his authority to ensure that money was given to certain groups. Delamere himself claimed that his actions were a perfectly reasonable method of addressing Māori development needs. Although he lost the immigration portfolio, he retained his other roles.

1980 – Minister of Agriculture Duncan MacIntyre gave a Marginal Land Boards loan to his daughter and son-in-law.

1995–96 – The "Antoinette Beck" affair: National/New Zealand First MP Michael Laws resigns after being subject to a conflict of interest inquiry over employing a company partly owned by his wife to conduct a poll, signed off by a non-existent "Antoinette Beck

[jasonu]

But National...

So that makes it all OK for Chris Fa'afafine to use his office to help out his cuzzie bros.

[husaberg]

So that makes it all OK for Chris Fa'afafine to use his office to help out his cuzzie bros.

Perhaps you will point to where i said suggested or mentioned or even insinuated anything like that.
Of course, when all these incidents occurred the same self appointed political commentators on this thread (yourself included) were all baying for the National party or National party coalitions MP's to be fired? Yet where you all?
Otherwise if this was what really happened, and they said nothing sure it stands to reason these people would be utter hypocrites, wouldn't they?
IMO Fafoi should stand down, for even "offering" to provide special treatment, Simon Bridges should also resign for his grandstanding at this, saying if it was his MP he would be fired, while at the same time denying he did anything wrong with selling list MP positions and hiding political donations.

it would be almost like quoting a herald story now just as it says something that suits you after years of going on about how crap it is.

Fuckwit. You know nothing more than the NZ Herald feeds you.

I let pritch, the Herald and CNN do that.

It is if you get all your dirt from the Herald.

[pete376403]

So that makes it all OK for Chris Fa'afafine to use his office to help out his cuzzie bros.

But he didn't, did he? He might have given the friend the impression that he might be able to do something, but in the end he didn't. So at worst it's a broken promise, and most, if not all pollys do that at some time or another.

[jasonu]

But he didn't, did he? He might have given the friend the impression that he might be able to do something, but in the end he didn't. So at worst it's a broken promise, and most, if not all pollys do that at some time or another.

You are correct if his last press statement is true. I think he is full of shit. He got popped helping is mate backdoor style and now he is in cover up mode.

[TheDemonLord]

Perhaps you will point to where i said suggested or mentioned or even insinuated anything like that.
Of course, when all these incidents occurred the same self appointed political commentators on this thread (yourself included) were all baying for the National party or National party coalitions MP's to be fired? Yet where you all?
Otherwise if this was what really happened, and they said nothing sure it stands to reason these people would be utter hypocrites, wouldn't they?
IMO Fafoi should stand down, for even "offering" to provide special treatment, Simon Bridges should also resign for his grandstanding at this, saying if it was his MP he would be fired, while at the same time denying he did anything wrong with selling list MP positions and hiding political donations.

it would be almost like quoting a herald story now just as it says something that suits you after years of going on about how crap it is.

So, you are saying that due to inappropriate behavior, SB should resign if other MPs in Government should resign?

Okay - Deal.

You get Simon Bridges - I get:

Kris Faafoi
Phil Twyford
Stuart Nash
and for letting it all happen under her watch:
Jacinda Ardern.


Where do I sign up for the trade?

[jasonu]

If she's smart, which is highly debatable, the tooth monster would call an immediate snap election since White Island has taken all the attention away from the recent and not so recent Labour Party blunders.

[Laava]

If she's smart, which is highly debatable, the tooth monster would call an immediate snap election since White Island has taken all the attention away from the recent and not so recent Labour Party blunders.

But that would be a dick move. She probably wouldn't even consider this option. This says a lot more about you than her.

[Swoop]

If she's smart, which is highly debatable, the tooth monster would call an immediate snap election since White Island has taken all the attention away from the recent and not so recent Labour Party blunders.

The budget is in the red again, by $900mil.


Shane Jones carted out of parliament in an ambulance. I guess he's starting to get worried about when his dodgy dealings "oop Norf" with the provincial growth fund, will become headline news.

[TheDemonLord]

But that would be a dick move. She probably wouldn't even consider this option. This says a lot more about you than her.

She hasn't shied away from other Dick Moves, so....

[jasonu]

She hasn't shied away from other Dick Moves, so....

I'm still waiting for her to come up with a cheesy White Island catch phrase. That and kissing babies is what she does best...

[Banditbandit]

You are correct if his last press statement is true. I think he is full of shit.

He's a politician isn't he? Stereotypical ...

He got popped helping is mate backdoor style and now he is in cover up mode.

No - he got popped making false promises to his mate - and he is not in cover up mode - he keeps repeating what a dumb thing it was to do ...

And yes, it is dumb making false promises to your friends and relations ....