Bogeyman
I guess it would be spin. If house prices didn't in fact rise as much under labour as they did with National.Originally Posted by husaberg
But I can't see any of those articles actually disputing that, which you sort of think they would have if it was all bullshit.
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Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Hopefully liarbour has learnt a good lesson? Don't fuck with the farmers!
Or they'll reduce NZ's biggest city, airlines AND the NZ tourism to its knees in ONE fell swoop!
The farmer will probably play the Treaty of Wangotango card and say he was looking for "cultural remains" and get off scott free.
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Forum whore
Time to push back harder on farmers. They deserve everything they get.Hopefully liarbour has learnt a good lesson? Don't fuck with the farmers!
Or they'll reduce NZ's biggest city, airlines AND the NZ tourism to its knees in ONE fell swoop!
The farmer will probably play the Treaty of Wangotango card and say he was looking for "cultural remains" and get off scott free.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Bored Room
You just need a digger looking for swamp Kauri to do that.Hopefully liarbour has learnt a good lesson? Don't fuck with the farmers!
Or they'll reduce NZ's biggest city, airlines AND the NZ tourism to its knees in ONE fell swoop!
The farmer will probably play the Treaty of Wangotango card and say he was looking for "cultural remains" and get off scott free.
I was doing a lot of back roads in the weekend and looks like you don't need helmets to ride on the road in the Naki on quad or farm bikes, as well as passengers.
Not anti Farmer but " she'll be right" attitude has gone from the work place elsewhere.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Bogeyman
So has most of the production.
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Bogeyman
They certainly deserve to comply with the rules they operate under.
They probably don't deserve to have a bunch of politically popular rules dumped on them at their cost overnight.
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Forum whore
It still does my head in that labour are going to charge nz farmers a tax for water yet let foriegn companies take water for free.
I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........
Anorak
To be fair i understand it was a swamp Kauri Digger rather than a farmerHopefully liarbour has learnt a good lesson? Don't fuck with the farmers!
Or they'll reduce NZ's biggest city, airlines AND the NZ tourism to its knees in ONE fell swoop!
The farmer will probably play the Treaty of Wangotango card and say he was looking for "cultural remains" and get off scott free.
Most farmers who irrigate already pay for the water as do most business's.It still does my head in that labour are going to charge nz farmers a tax for water yet let foriegn companies take water for free.
What they are talking about is a tax to fund the clean up the waterways.
poeple want to clean up the waterways, but who should pay for it. Personally Id be happy with a tax on all NZers what about you?.............
I note National never got rid of the carbon tax.
More spin.
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Forum whore
Seriously ? a tax on new zealanders? for what? being a new zealander? Fuck that, thats riot talk.
Seriously, if we charge foreign money for the water then we won't have to just recycle NZ money to clean up the waterways. Its a no brainer.
I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........
Anorak
Well, We could pay for it with a corperate tax but alas National already lowered that while raising GST on the rest of us
Ocean likes User pays, maybe th eopeple that use the rivers IE not only farmers Kayakers people fishing whitebaiting people swiming rowing etc etc
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Bored Room
The Taxpayers are not a charity for Business's who can't get their shit together ( pun intended) to subsidise.
Get friggen Fonterra to fund it by charging more.
In my line of work we had to dispose of 1200 litres of oil, you should see the paper trail for that.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Anorak
Bussiness now how could they be charged.........
I think that was actually Labours intention.
Fontera can't charge more as its mainly a competitive global a comodity bussiness.
Unless of course you raise the corperate tax that National lowered.
plus not all farmers or indeede not even all dairy farmers are part of Fontera.
Nor are farmers the only polluters of waterways.
Urban People are actually likely NZs biggest polluters of the environment.
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Forum whore
Really? I dispose of over 1000 litres a month every month with nothing more that a "how is it mate" to the truck driver.
And it costs me nothing.
Forum whore
You and berkboy can share some common ground.
Bogeyman
Ocean likes workable rules. Access to waterways is treated differently to most other public assets in most western law, has been for centuries. They're supposed to be designed to ensure free access and prevent upstream heighbours fucking up your share of river. They're obviously not working too well any more, but regulation is the right way to deal with activities that pollute waterways, just make the rules fit the problem.
It costs nothing for anyone to supply rivers, so I don't see why anyone gets to charge for their use, it does fuck all to prevent environmental abuse.
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